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re: More Madrid Backlash (sorry, quote wouldn´t let me enter it)
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:33 am to Dandy Lion
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:33 am to Dandy Lion
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I could go on about how some sides have won a CL and yet, aren´t recognized for such, only in the record books, but I´ve got a feeling, you won´t comprehend.
i fear Chelsea will be one of these teams...
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:38 am to Dandy Lion
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Even if they replaced Mou with the local butcher, the team would still play the same.
Resume sent. See you frickers in Hollywood.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:46 am to BleedPurpleGold
You're a butcher?
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:57 am to svb
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If counter-attacking can get your team the win then do it. It sure as hell worked better than Barcelona's exemplary playing style.
Barca wouldn't have won anything over the past few years if they were just a counter-attacking side. Kind of like Madrid haven't won anything.
I think what he's saying is that Barca went out faithful to the idea of how Barca wants to play.
I have to agree. Losing 7-0 sucks, but it's better for Barca than if they had kept it close by playing like Chelsea played in last year's CL. I know Chelsea won the CL and that's great. I'm not hating on the way they played, it's just not for Barca.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:01 am to uway
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Kind of like Madrid haven't won anything.
Well they just beat Barca in the league last year.
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I think what he's saying is that Barca went out faithful to the idea of how Barca wants to play.
Congrats I guess? Will that comfort when they like in bed at night feel BM's dong sliding in and out for the next several months?
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Losing 7-0 sucks, but it's better for Barca than if they had kept it close by playing like Chelsea played in last year's CL. I know Chelsea won the CL and that's great. I'm not hating on the way they played, it's just not for Barca.
Dude, barca are the very last team in the world with any right to act high and mighty about the way a game was won. Many of their biggest victories have been on the back of absolute disgraces.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:07 am to RandySavage
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Congrats I guess? Will that comfort when they like in bed at night feel BM's dong sliding in and out for the next several months?
You're projecting. You might feel that way after such a loss, but I bet they don't. It's a clear indication they need to make some adjustments, that's all. You can't argue with the success they have had, and this certainly doesn't diminish it.
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barca are the very last team in the world with any right to act high and mighty about the way a game was won. Many of their biggest victories have been on the back of absolute disgraces.
Whether the way Barca plays is the "right" way to play is up for debate. What's not debatable is whether they have a definite way of playing and have stuck to it to their great reward.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:18 pm to WarSlamEagle
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You're a butcher?
I like roast beef sandwiches. Close enough.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 7:09 pm to Dandy Lion
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Vick, you don´t understand football either.
Pretty sure he understands football. Maybe he just doesn't understand fans who don't mind their team's players flopping like bitches but get upset about their team playing to their strengths.
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:40 pm to ohiovol
Posted on 5/3/13 at 9:14 pm to BleedPurpleGold
Got any of your roast beef sandwiches for this one? I'm kinda burnt out on popcorn.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:03 pm to Dandy Lion
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NOBODY in Europe wants to see an elephant dig his head in the sand for 180+ minutes, with his arse covering the goal, and when he sees fit, run the ball the other way, throwing it off to some previously slumbering tinkerbells, do they?
Makes no sense for the viewer, let alone the lover of the sport, does it?
winning should be the primary goal, though
most sports evolve into a defensive-based gameplan around risk-averse scoring. soccer hasn't...yet
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:05 pm to Dandy Lion
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Last year was an anomaly, was it not?
inter beat barca, under jose, with that style
Posted on 5/4/13 at 10:25 am to ohiovol
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Pretty sure he understands football.
The basic rules of the sport, yes. Club history, style of play, etcétera, I don´t think so.
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Maybe he just doesn't understand fans who don't mind their team's players flopping like bitches
Your puerile dig couldn´t be any further from the truth.
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their team playing to their strengths.
Again, you don´t understand football. The OP is about a club´s history and playing style.
Playing to their strengths as you say, is a club deviating substantially from it´s M.O. and-or sporting DNA(see Mourinho, Jóse, Real Madrid).
This post was edited on 5/4/13 at 10:28 am
Posted on 5/4/13 at 10:35 am to Dandy Lion
i just reject an aesthetically-based view of judging success. it's an illogical and irrational view
results are what matters
if you want to criticize jose for how Real did in la liga this year? that's fine. i think they should have beaten BvB as well. criticize him for failing at those things is perfectly logical
but to claim barca, who was butt fricked, did better than real, who was a goal away from moving on, it just irrational
this has little to do with me being american. it's just logic/rationality
results are what matters
if you want to criticize jose for how Real did in la liga this year? that's fine. i think they should have beaten BvB as well. criticize him for failing at those things is perfectly logical
but to claim barca, who was butt fricked, did better than real, who was a goal away from moving on, it just irrational
this has little to do with me being american. it's just logic/rationality
Posted on 5/4/13 at 10:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
You evidently don´t get it, and never will.
It´s not just aesthetics.
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but to claim barca, who was butt fricked, did better than real,
Have you a reading comprehension problem? Nobody said they did better, simply, it was admirable that they stuck to their guns.
Posted on 5/4/13 at 10:42 am to Dandy Lion
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You evidently don´t get it, and never will.
i do get it, but i think it's illogical and irrational
at the least it's emotional thinking, which is a subgrouping of irrationality
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it was admirable that they stuck to their guns.
why? they did worse. a lot worse
being stubborn to your detriment is not admirable. some people actually define insanity that way
This post was edited on 5/4/13 at 10:43 am
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:04 am to Dandy Lion
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Playing to their strengths as you say, is a club deviating substantially from it´s M.O. and-or sporting DNA(see Mourinho, Jóse, Real Madrid).
Yes, but it's the quintessential, "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario.
And, let's face it. They've probably truly sat back and looked to hit a team on the counter <15-20 times over Mourinho's tenure.
This post was edited on 5/4/13 at 11:08 am
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:06 am to joey barton
yeah the bunker-counter is mainly a barca tactic, and it has had some success
barca is just better than real at this moment. real had to adjust to barca to try to give themselves an advantage
barca is just better than real at this moment. real had to adjust to barca to try to give themselves an advantage
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:08 am to joey barton
quote:yes, the project was doomed from the outset. He only had a 40% approval rating when hired, therefore, his only hope was to win a CL, and even then, still not enjoy unanimous acceptance.
Yes, but it's the quintessential, "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario.
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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You STILL do not get it, and never will.
Football is a way of life in Europe. Rationality and logic are rarely the dominant components of the equation.
Many can´t seem to wrap their heads around this.
This post was edited on 5/4/13 at 11:23 am
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