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More Madrid Backlash (sorry, quote wouldn´t let me enter it)
Posted on 5/2/13 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 5/2/13 at 9:32 pm
Ángel Cappa (Jorge Valdano's assistant during his time as Real Madrid coach between 1994 and 1996) has berated the current Madrid side for their elimination in this week's Champions League semi-final. Cappa was particularly severe with José Mourinho for his management of the team. "Borussia, Bayern and Barcelona all play with an idea in mind, Madrid don't. They don't play football", he told Catalan radio this week.
"If Mourinho leaves, it won't hurt Real Madrid, it won't mean a thing. The only thing he has brought to the team has been in training but out on the pitch? Nothing, zero. Any team is capable of playing better than Real Madrid. The only reason they have won anything is because they have a couple of first-class players - they don't win because they play decent football. Any team at regional level can play on the counter-attack; it's a basic for every team. Even if they replaced Mou with the local butcher, the team would still play the same. Madrid won't notice if he goes, it doesn't matter, it won't make any difference", Cappa added.
In contrast to Madrid, according to Cappa, Barcelona bowed out of the competition "with dignity", as he continued, "When it's your turn to lose, you have to take it like Barça did. They were exemplary".
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 9:38 pm to Dandy Lion
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In contrast to Madrid, according to Cappa, Barcelona bowed out of the competition "with dignity", as he continued, "When it's your turn to lose, you have to take it like Barça did. They were exemplary".
So rolling over and bowing out 7-0 > than fighting like dogs to the last second and nearly pulling off a miracle?
Makes it hard to take anything else this has been nobody says seriously.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 5/2/13 at 9:41 pm to RandySavage
I think he means no bitching and moaning.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 9:41 pm to Dandy Lion
Barca lost 7-0 on aggregate but "they were exemplary" in the way they went out, but Madrid lost by a goal and they just don't play football? I think Herm Edwards needs to give this guy a little lesson. LINK
If counter-attacking can get your team the win then do it. It sure as hell worked better than Barcelona's exemplary playing style.
If counter-attacking can get your team the win then do it. It sure as hell worked better than Barcelona's exemplary playing style.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 9:42 pm to Dandy Lion
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I think he means no bitching and moaning.
Did Madrid do this? I didn't see any of it during the game. Don't know what was said afterward.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 9:42 pm to Dandy Lion
He's right.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 9:48 pm to RandySavage
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Did Madrid do this? I didn't see any of it during the game. Don't know what was said afterward.
No, Mourinho´s been bitching and moaning for the past two months.
It´s a dig, for sure, as Mourinho had his téte a téte with Valdano early on in his tenure, but the ´ramplona´style of football and bitching gave this dog his day (Cappa).
I´m worried, as Real Madrid followers aren´t high on Ancelloti at all, and this sucks. They think he is the prototypical catenaccio Italian.
Florentino will heed the rabble this time out, I fear. Also, I don´t see him sucking up his pride and bringing Pellegrini back.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 5/2/13 at 9:50 pm to Dandy Lion
Jupp?
Pellegrini to City.
Pellegrini to City.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 5/2/13 at 9:52 pm to svb
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Herm Edwards
You don´t understand football. Especially when it concerns the most storied club in the sport´s history.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 9:53 pm to Dandy Lion
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They think he is the prototypical catenaccio Italian.
If I'm not mistaken Chelsea broke the PL record for goals scored in the PL during his first season there.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 9:54 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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Jupp?
I don´t know. I´m thinking more the crazy one from Borussia, as he´s younger.
The logical fit is Laudrup, but he renewed his contract with Swansea.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 9:58 pm to Dandy Lion
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In contrast to Madrid, according to Cappa, Barcelona bowed out of the competition "with dignity", as he continued, "When it's your turn to lose, you have to take it like Barça did. They were exemplary".
This is fricking stupid. Barcelona got anally throttled. How did they bow out with dignity?
This is the one element of football that is pretty fricking stupid. You do what you have to do to win (within the rules of the game). Style of play and coaches bitching to the media are temporary; trophies last forever.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:00 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Vick, you don´t understand football either.
Trophies do last, but they are poopooed in some countries, given how they were won.
Trophies do last, but they are poopooed in some countries, given how they were won.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:01 pm to RandySavage
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If I'm not mistaken Chelsea broke the PL record for goals scored in the PL during his first season there.
Randy, you´re right, he needs a PR campaign in Spain.
Basic Spaniards hear ´Italian´ and think Capello.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:02 pm to Dandy Lion
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Even if they replaced Mou with the local butcher, the team would still play the same.
Harsh, but true.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:08 pm to Dandy Lion
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You don´t understand football. Especially when it concerns the most storied club in the sport´s history.
Lol I don't see how me posting a video (some of which I was kidding, but some of it is still true imo) of a coach of a different sport means I don't understand the game. I am no expert but I still know most of what I am talking about
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Trophies do last, but they are poopooed in some countries, given how they were won.
In 25 years do you think people will look back at Chelsea's trophy of last season and discredit it because they didn't play an attacking style? Sorry, but I don't.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:13 pm to svb
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svb
I understand you, but you don´t understand what you´re talking about.
Logically, you do. It´s all about the W.
Football has nothing to do with sports in the US in terms of W´s and L´s.
It´s about sportmanship, to some degree, a philosophy, and the execution of said philosophy.
´Tis a different animal. Altogether.
Not getting uppity. Simply, you either get it, or you don´t.
I could go on about how some sides have won a CL and yet, aren´t recognized for such, only in the record books, but I´ve got a feeling, you won´t comprehend.
After a drawn out diatribe possibly, but that´s for another post.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:18 pm to svb
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In 25 years do you think people will look back at Chelsea's trophy of last season and discredit it because they didn't play an attacking style? Sorry, but I don't.
It will be considered obscure or a one off (at best, if referenced to for some reason).
Now, should said side make a living of horrid football, and win six or seven in a ten or fifteen year span, they will ALWAYS be mentioned, and the font of heated debate.
Again, your ´attacking style ´comment is über nebulous, I suppose you mean Barcelona.
I´m not referring to the actual FCB style of play, simply, bunkering with all effectives in the box and countering when and if possible, is not admired in the footballing world.
EPLers laugh at Stoke, and would be amazed with Stoke winning something of merit. Were they to do it five, six, seven times, then they´d be a case for an extensive major business school study, would they not?
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:18 pm to svb
Winning at all costs is an American concept for the most part.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:45 pm to Dandy Lion
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I´m not referring to the actual FCB style of play, simply, bunkering with all effectives in the box and countering when and if possible, is not admired in the footballing world.
Yep.
Basically, if you're supposed to be one of the elite teams in the world, you don't need to counter-first. If you are a big club in a big league, there should be no reason for you to park the bus.
Why are you spending so much money on attacking players if you're going to do that? Why have one of the world's biggest wage bills and do that? These are the issues people had against Chelsea last year. Bunker and counter is supposed to be for those small clubs trying to survive an early round trip in the FA Cup or stay above the drop zone.
Fans want to see the beautiful game played at the highest level when you get to the biggest competitions. I want to see two teams go at each other, not one side plug away at ten men behind the ball when that same team has a good amount of money invested in playing attractive soccer/football (that was for you, Dandy).
Real Madrid fans like Dandy hate to see their team, with the Ozils and the Ronaldos and the Benzemas and the Di Marias, play counter-first. Now, elite teams should be able to construct a deadly counter attack when the opportunity arises, but it shouldn't be their gameplan.
Think of the Broncos with Tebow. Yeah, they won a playoff game with him. Somehow. It was an ugly half-season, and Tebow ugly chucked the ball around the yard against a depleted Pittsburgh defense for the overtime win. They schemed to win ugly.
But Denver didn't want to play like that. As much as the "survival" mode made for some dramatic football, it wasn't how they wanted to do things. So they go get one of the best QBs of all-time and play a better version of the game the next season.
It's a huge deal around the world to play attractive soccer. If you are one of the world's biggest clubs, you shouldn't have to resort to counter attack most of the time.
Chelsea fans will savor that UCL win. I'm not going to go as far and say that it was tainted. But I'm not a fan of the bunkering style...but, hey, it got the Blues the big one. And they don't do that this year, which is great. Hazard, Mata, Oscar, those guys deserve to play attacking football. It's what a big club should do...so when the time comes for you to play another big club, we get to see a better-looking match.
/rant
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 10:47 pm
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