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re: Oh No, Bitcoins Trading <$100...

Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:11 am to
Posted by txtiger21
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2010
304 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:11 am to
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tonight see it down to $98


I wouldn't want to wake up to see my dollar worth 80 cents the next morning either. Way too volatile to have any real use.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126960 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:16 am to
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I wouldn't want to wake up to see my dollar worth 80 cents the next morning either. Way too volatile to have any real use.

Agreed. Btc is at $81 now after having dropped to $79 earlier this morning.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:29 am to
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Agreed. Btc is at $81 now after having dropped to $79 earlier this morning.


$78 more dollars and I'm sinking my teeth into a juicy ribeye
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11659 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 9:46 am to
$96
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3945 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 9:51 am to
Seems the price fluctuates so quickly that there is no time to crow too much one way or the other.

As a neutral observer, I love it. It makes these threads fun.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 9:52 am to
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Seems the price fluctuates so quickly that there is no time to crow too much one way or the other.


pretty much

quote:

As a neutral observer, I love it. It makes these threads fun.




it sure does.



Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126960 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:03 am to
quote:

$96
I don't think you realize that when you point out btc's volatility you are actually supporting the idea it is not a viable currency and you are also bitch slapping wiki for claiming btc is 'relatively stable.'
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45195 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:11 am to
Who's buying today?
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:13 am to
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Who's buying today?


broke probably bought a couple. Vols as well.
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11659 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:18 am to
Russian is pissed because he loaded up at $130
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:45 am to
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:15 am to
Can't watch the whole thing but fast forwarded to the actual demo (around the 17 min mark).

I have to admit that was pretty slick.

Gotta question though, how long is it guaranteeing that quotes price before I complete the transaction? As volatile as the price is, couldn't I wait for a while, see what the price does and cancel or accept and make risk free money?
Posted by pronto
Tampa
Member since Apr 2013
8 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:18 am to
Bitcoin will get back. it's the right time to buy some for those who didn't buy it yet
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:19 am to
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how long is it guaranteeing that quotes price before I complete the transaction?


I don't know. He did a Q&A session after the demo but I don't remember that coming up. I imagine that there will be a time limit though.

quote:

As volatile as the price is, couldn't I wait for a while, see what the price does and cancel or accept and make risk free money?


I don't know if that would be a viable strategy. The bitcoinATM company charges 3% for their exchange services and then the individul ATM owners and operators can add a fee on top of that, so it will be expensive to use these machines. If you wanted to do that kind of trading, you would just use a regular web based exchange site.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:22 am to
Doesn't the need for a Bitcoin ATM indicate that Bitcoins have failed to achieve utility as a currency? The ATM is nothing more than a portable exchange for converting Bitcoins into the local currency.

Does using the ATM compromise any anonymity of the Bitcoin owner, and does it pose a security risk since the ATM will have interacted with the Bitcoin owner in a manner that allows the ATM to capture security information?
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:29 am to
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The bitcoinATM company charges 3% for their exchange services and then the individul ATM owners and operators can add a fee on top of that


Ah that's the catch.

Damn, I was just about to REALLY start liking bitcoins
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:30 am to
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Doesn't the need for a Bitcoin ATM indicate that Bitcoins have failed to achieve utility as a currency?


I don't think so. We are bootstrapping a new currency. To make it viable, we need to make it easy for people to get into bitcoin in the first place.

quote:

Does using the ATM compromise any anonymity of the Bitcoin owner, and does it pose a security risk since the ATM will have interacted with the Bitcoin owner in a manner that allows the ATM to capture security information?


I could see anonymity being mitigated by the use of cameras either in the ATM machine itself (as most ATM's have them) as well as cameras in the location of the bitcoinATM, like a store, airport, train station, etc.

As far as anonymity in the blockchain goes, no, I don't see this having any effect. You could generate a bitcoin address at home, print it to a QR code, and then deposit cash in the machine and let it scan your printed QR code. No where in the system would your real name or info be used. But like I said earlier, there may be video evidence that you used the machine, which to a well equipped investigative agency, could potentially identify a person and where their bitcoins went.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45195 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:36 am to
quote:

The ATM is nothing more than a portable exchange for converting Bitcoins into the local currency.


It's also an exchange for converting local currency for Bitcoin.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

It's also an exchange for converting local currency for Bitcoin.


Isn't the entire point of an ATM to get quick currency that you can use right away?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45195 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:19 pm to
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Isn't the entire point of an ATM to get quick currency that you can use right away?


Traditionally. That doesn't mean that the use of ATM's can't evolve.

If I had a BitcoinATM in my city I'd use that instead of having to go through the hurdles of getting verified on Gox
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