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Brettesaurus Rex
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Agree or Disagree...Kenny Vaccaro

I've finally started to come to grips with our selection, but there's still one thing that bothers me and wanted to get the boards feel.

Agree or disagree: I will be much, much happier with the pick if it means than Jenkins is gone. I guess you could say the same about Harper, but Id rather keep Harper than Jenkins.

I'm going to be very disappointed if KV only sees the field in nickel or third down situations. He's a first round pick that needs to be starting day one.
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re: Agree or Disagree...Kenny Vaccaro
Agree. I cannot stand MJ


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Melvin
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re: Agree or Disagree...Kenny Vaccaro
At least Harper can tackle. Jenkins can't cover or tackle


GOON
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re: Agree or Disagree...Kenny Vaccaro
I think the pick is more of a prediction of releasing Harper NEXT season. I doubt that we release either this season (definitely not Harper due to his dead money).

I still have hope that either/both of Jenkins and Harper can be salvaged, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are both gone next season if they don't improve this season.


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re: Agree or Disagree...Kenny Vaccaro
I think they'll be very creative to get him the reps. Maybe a hybrid safety-slot cover guy. I won't be surprised for both Jenkins and Harper to be gone in 2014. This year as much for cap & contracts they won't be leaving.

Another thing, the old free/strong safety roles and designation is quickly becoming history. It's evolving just to left and right safeties. They have to do it all, jam the box and cover deep.


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I fully believe we drafted him to start week one. If we did, Harper needs to take a serious pay cut.


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goatmilker
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100% agreed.
If Vaccaro is not a starter with the two bozo's worst rated tantum in the NFL it was a bad pick.
Everyone should know by now that I never want to see harper or jenkins play at the SS or FS position again.


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re: Agree or Disagree...Kenny Vaccaro
I think there's still hope for Jenkins at CB. I think FS is just too much responsibility for him. Harper...well we know what we have in Harper. I don't want either of them starting this year however.

If you don't use KV to get Harper off of the field, then you haven't fixed the most glaring hole in your coverage.


Brettesaurus Rex
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won't be surprised for both Jenkins and Harper to be gone in 2014

I won't be either, which is why I'm starting to like the pick more. Obviously we need the safety help. I just hope it means Jenkins is either cut or just reduced to backup.
And as far as 2014 goes, I won't be surprised if Vaccaro and IAQ are the two starters.


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And as far as 2014 goes, I won't be surprised if Vaccaro and IAQ are the two starters.


I want them to be the starters this year. I mean how much film do you need on Jenkins and Harper to let you know IT DOESN'T WORK?


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re: Agree or Disagree...Kenny Vaccaro
I agree... Vaccaro is going to be so versatile in this D, and then the attitude/arrogance he has is going bring a personality this D needs and was lacking last year. Plus I am so glad MJ and RH know they have to step up their game because they could lose their spot.


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kclsufan
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I think there's still hope for Jenkins at CB.

This what I'm hoping. If KV can step up and MJ can be a decent CB we've essentially got 2 pieces for the price of 1.


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re: Agree or Disagree...Kenny Vaccaro
If he can't start over Jenkins day 1 all hope is lost


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Brettesaurus Rex
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I want them to be the starters this year. I mean how much film do you need on Jenkins and Harper to let you know IT DOESN'T WORK?

I'm all with you on that. Unfortunately Harpers pay this year makes him uncuttable. That's really why I mentioned Jenkins Bc I think his $$ situation is much more manageable. Either cut outright or just off the field


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goatmilker
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I want them to be the starters this year.


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Jumbeauxlaya
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re: Agree or Disagree...Kenny Vaccaro
I'd love to know when this board got all retarded about Jenkins, he's not bad at all


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re: Agree or Disagree...Kenny Vaccaro
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. If KV can step up and MJ can be a decent CB

jenkins was already a flat out failure at CB, which is why he was moved to FS

at the time this board defended him and said he was really drafted to play safety

now the board is mad that he sucks at safety and is hoping he can somehow become a good CB? that's highly unlikely

there is a reason he was moved from a valuable position (CB) that we have issues at to a much less valuable position (FS)


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he's not bad at all


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djrunner
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I think the pick is more of a prediction of releasing Harper NEXT season. I doubt that we release either this season (definitely not Harper due to his dead money).

I still have hope that either/both of Jenkins and Harper can be salvaged, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are both gone next season if they don't improve this season.




This, let's see how these guys look in the new system and where they fit in Ryan's scheme before we show them the road.


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