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Sorry guys, the Saints will select Kenny Vacarro on Thursday
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:25 pm
I know many of you on this board would hate this pick, but I'm starting to think this will happen..
Reason #1 Mingo is starting look like a lock to go before 15, also the mock drafts from the media don't always translate to what GMs are actually thinking and the smoke screens that they are planting (health problems). Jarvis Jones who was a consensus #1 player before the off-season could be snagged early on
Reason #2 The 49ers have a glaring hole at Safety w the departure of Goldson and want to jump to 13-14 (ahead of us) for a reason.. If they didn't believe we wanted Vacarro, why not move to 15? They know that the Saints are one of the main teams likely to move back
So why take Vacarro?
Because he's a versatile player that lined up all over the field as SS, FS, and also played man-to-man nickel at Texas. Being able to line up anywhere on the field makes him a great candidate for a Ryan 3-4.. CSP knows better than anybody the importance of match-ups, and having that versatility in the back end will improve the entire secondary
The transition to the 3-4 was made possible bc the Saints figured Martez & Junior fit the OLB pieces, they wouldn't have switched to the 3-4 if they thought otherwise. Having those 2, plus butler.. Makes OLB not as big of a need as some think. Let the unproven OLBs have their chance and get an OLB next year if they don't pan out. We dont know what we have in those 3 yet, but we know what we don't have in Harper
Bash away! Thursday is oh so close
Reason #1 Mingo is starting look like a lock to go before 15, also the mock drafts from the media don't always translate to what GMs are actually thinking and the smoke screens that they are planting (health problems). Jarvis Jones who was a consensus #1 player before the off-season could be snagged early on
Reason #2 The 49ers have a glaring hole at Safety w the departure of Goldson and want to jump to 13-14 (ahead of us) for a reason.. If they didn't believe we wanted Vacarro, why not move to 15? They know that the Saints are one of the main teams likely to move back
So why take Vacarro?
Because he's a versatile player that lined up all over the field as SS, FS, and also played man-to-man nickel at Texas. Being able to line up anywhere on the field makes him a great candidate for a Ryan 3-4.. CSP knows better than anybody the importance of match-ups, and having that versatility in the back end will improve the entire secondary
The transition to the 3-4 was made possible bc the Saints figured Martez & Junior fit the OLB pieces, they wouldn't have switched to the 3-4 if they thought otherwise. Having those 2, plus butler.. Makes OLB not as big of a need as some think. Let the unproven OLBs have their chance and get an OLB next year if they don't pan out. We dont know what we have in those 3 yet, but we know what we don't have in Harper
Bash away! Thursday is oh so close
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Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:30 pm to LSU Nguyener
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but I'm starting to think this will happen..
So this thread means nothing then?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:31 pm to LSU Nguyener
Word around Dutchtown is that Eric Reid is drawing a lot of attention from SF. They may not want to trade up.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:33 pm to saintsfan22
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:36 pm to LSU Nguyener
I'm one who believes that much improved front seven/pass rush will take a lot of pressure off of our safeties. Also, the consensus is that Harper will be a perfect scheme fit so hopefully he balls. I wouldn't mind drafting a safety, but Vacarro + #15 don't match
Posted on 4/23/13 at 1:35 am to AlexMSU
This guy is a Malcolm Jenkins who cant catch...DO NOT WANT give me Elam from Florida any day of the week.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 1:46 am to Bduhon55
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give me Elam from Florida any day of the week.
THIS. Elam reminds me of a harder hitting Ed Reed with less ball skills (at this point).
Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:13 am to PianoTiger
quote:agreeed
THIS. Elam reminds me of a harder hitting Ed Reed with less ball skills (at this point).
Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:16 am to LSU Nguyener
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but I'm starting to think
You should really give that up
Posted on 4/23/13 at 6:57 am to Sho Nuff
So who do we get if the top OLBs are gone? Trade back is an easy answer, but if we can't?
Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:35 am to LSU Nguyener
I'll be pretty pissed. Would be a very dumb selection at 15th overall
Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:38 am to Brettesaurus Rex
Carradine
Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:40 am to LSU Nguyener
There are maybe only 1-2 other picks that I would be more disappointed with. If they take KV, I won't even watch the rest of the draft. I really won't give a shite at that point
Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:51 am to SaintLSUnAtl
Really? You wouldn't watch the rest draft because you think you know more than the coaching staff? This is one step below the people that say they wouldn't be Saints fans anymore if we stat Te'o. Do I want KV? No. But I'm not going to pack it in and turn in my fan card if we pick him.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:03 am to ClientNumber9
If Mingo or Jones is there at 15, I just don't see how we can pass on him.
I'd say Jenkins gets one more year to "put up or shut up." He's never taken the next step. I'm pretty impressed by the way Issa Abdul Qaedus (sp?) played last season with Jenkins hurt. If anyone should be nervous about losing a starting job, its Jenkins to the guy already sitting on the bench. Not sure we'd spend that pick on a position we may already have an answer for.
I'd say Jenkins gets one more year to "put up or shut up." He's never taken the next step. I'm pretty impressed by the way Issa Abdul Qaedus (sp?) played last season with Jenkins hurt. If anyone should be nervous about losing a starting job, its Jenkins to the guy already sitting on the bench. Not sure we'd spend that pick on a position we may already have an answer for.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:03 am to ClientNumber9
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This is one step below the people that say they wouldn't be Saints fans anymore if we stat Te'o
No. It's not even remotely like that at all.
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But I'm not going to pack it in and turn in my fan card if we pick him.
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You wouldn't watch the rest draft because you think you know more than the coaching staff?
You sure are adding a lot of stuff I never said to try and make a point aren't you?
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:05 am to PianoTiger
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give me Elam from Florida any day of the week.
Add me in on this one. Elam single handily beat LSU. Dude is a baller!
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:36 am to Nissanmaxima
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Elam single handily beat LSU. Dude is a baller!
+1
Elam > Vacarro and Rhodes
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:37 am to LSU Nguyener
Yea I think this would be terrible pick at 15. There are other safeties in the draft that are marginally less talented than Vaccaro. If you have a chance to take mingo or jones, theres no way I take Vaccaro. JMO.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 9:05 am to LSU Nguyener
Mingo might be gone but jarvis sackman jones won't
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