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Roaad
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Not to mention a lot of the crap that's going on in the Balkans and the ME today.
Balkans was 99% the fault of the church split and the muslim settlement.

Anything I did not list is in the 1%






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Catman88
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Because the OP chose the list as he saw fit.


And yet you defend who is on the list with complete ignorance.

So based on YOUR reasoning for Jesus being on the list answer the question.









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And yet you defend who is on the list
I think the list is solid for the OP's purposes.

I just explain why they are on the list.

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with complete ignorance.
I guess I am just not as well educated as you. I defer to your superior intellect and argument.

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So based on YOUR reasoning for Jesus being on the list answer the question.
which question?






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Catman88
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It was pretty clear. If Jesus' ACTIONS were the cause for the items you list. Then why is Jesus on the list but not the parents of the other people on the list who's INNOCENT actions caused horrible events later in time?

You still claim "list is solid for the OP's purpose"

The title of the thread is

"figures' actions have had the worst results?"

What actions did Jesus have that was the result of what others did later in time?

By those standards Alfred Nobel may be the most heinous person to ever live. Karl Benz and
Henry Ford have killed more people than many on that list as well.

The DIFFERENCE in that list is that it combines figures that had DIRECT heinous actions and those that did nothing of the sort. Its a list put together to illicit a response on the last name in the list alone.



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Roaad
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hen why is Jesus on the list but not the parents of the other people on the list who's INNOCENT actions caused horrible events later in time?
Why have his parents, and not Hitler?

Because you have to choose someone. The OP chose a starting point for the sake of his thread.







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udtiger
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re: Which of the following historical figures' actions have had the worst results?


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It was pretty clear. If Jesus' ACTIONS were the cause for the items you list. Then why is Jesus on the list but not the parents of the other people on the list who's INNOCENT actions caused horrible events later in time?

You still claim "list is solid for the OP's purpose"

The title of the thread is

"figures' actions have had the worst results?"

What actions did Jesus have that was the result of what others did later in time?

By those standards Alfred Nobel may be the most heinous person to ever live. Karl Benz and
Henry Ford have killed more people than many on that list as well.

The DIFFERENCE in that list is that it combines figures that had DIRECT heinous actions and those that did nothing of the sort. Its a list put together to illicit a response on the last name in the list alone.


Catman is partially right.

My OP was intended to draw out a comparison between C & E because I have heard Islamic apologists try to draw that comparison.

Historially, Mohammed was a vicious man who personally committed and directed atrocities in the name of Allah. Conversion by the sword was his MO, and has been the MO of Islam TO THIS DAY.

Jesus did nothing of the sort. Moreover, the "abuses" of the RCC were direct responses to the invasion of Islam (Crusades) that were co-opted by political figures of the time, or were separate actions by branches of the Church (Spanish Inquisition), but these stopped OVER 500 YEARS AGO.

In short, there is no comparison.



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Catman88
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The OP is inconsistent with starting points which is the problem with the list.

Was Nobel at fault for bombing the Boston marathon or the two jackasses from Russia?

If YOU list the Spanish Inquisition as reason for having Jesus on the list then why is it Jesus and not Ferdinand II and Isabella I for consistency?


The fact is the list is ONLY put together with one thing in mind. Throw in a bunch of people that are historically thought of by many as bad with one they consider very good and see what response you get.






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Do you believe Jesus = God, or are they separate?





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udtiger
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I do NOT want this to be a religion thread. This is solely about these persons as historical/political figures. What I believe is irrelevant.

That said, I am a Roman Catholic, so I believe in the Trinity.






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Blue Velvet
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I do NOT want this to be a religion thread.
Me neither, just wanted clarity.
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This is solely about these persons as historical/political figures.
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That said, I am a Roman Catholic, so I believe in the Trinity.
Gotcha.

I just thought this quote was odd...
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Jesus did nothing of the sort.
considering the Christian God flooded the earth and the non-believers, killing millions of people.






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constant cough
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Do you believe Jesus = God, or are they separate?



Is that you Arius?






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BugAC
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his cult did carry out the atrocities of the crusades ya know.


Cult? You fricking idiot. Again, the self congratulatory pat on your back for insulting Christianity is pathetic. You really are a piece of shite. Oh, and let's try reading comprehension, dip shite.

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following historical figures' actions


What actions would that be?

Love thy neighbor as you love thyself

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Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth... Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy... Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God


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But I say to you that hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same.


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And behold, a lawyer stood up to put him to the test, saying, "Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" He said to him, "What is written in the law? How do you read?" And he answered, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself." And he said to him, "You have answered right; do this, and you will live." But he, desiring to justify himself, said to Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?" Jesus replied, "A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he fell among robbers, who stripped him and beat him, and departed, leaving him half dead. Now by chance a priest was going down that road; and when he saw him he passed by on the other side. So likewise a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a Samaritan, as he journeyed, came to where he was; and when he saw him, he had compassion, and went to him and bound up his wounds, pouring on oil and wine; then he set him on his own beast and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. And the next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper, saying, 'Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, I will repay you when I come back.' Which of these three, do you think, proved neighbor to the man who fell among the robbers?" He said, "The one who showed mercy on him." And Jesus said to him, "Go and do likewise."






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udtiger
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Why BV, I am impressed you believe in the literal word of the Old Testament.

And here I thought you were an atheist.

If you believe that, feel free to vote for E.






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TexasTiger1185
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Quote the words of Christ demanding that? Maybe you could start with the one where he says ye without sin cast the first stone. You are confusing the actions of those He came to save from themselves from Christ Himself. That's like blaming water for someone drowning as a result of a man holding another man's head under water. Man IS THE PROBLEM.


So what you're saying is that terrorists who attack the US and other countries in their Jihad are the problem. So why do we always mention Muslim? Muhammed didn't do it...

When someone carries out an act in the name of someone, what does that mean to you?






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Blue Velvet
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I am impressed you believe in the literal word of the Old Testament.
God's book is full of lies?
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And here I thought you were an atheist.
You were wrong.
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If you believe that, feel free to vote for E.
No thanks.






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jcole4lsu
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Cult? You fricking idiot

a group of people who organize to worship and kill in the name of something is most certainly a cult. sorry that offends your sensibilities. i find it quite funny you get so upset over this apparent affront to Jesus and Christianity but say nothing about the exact same statements being applied to Mohammed and Islam.






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E) Jesus Christ


That whole love your neighbor as yourself is so bad.






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Blue Velvet
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Boom?





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Zach
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A) Karl Marx B) Adolph Hitler C) Mohammed D) Mao Zedong E) Jesus Christ


Basketball Team:

Center: Mohammed, he could move mountains
Power Forward: Karl Marx, "Forward!"
Small Forward: Adolph Hitler, Blitzkrieg to the hoop
Shooting Guard: Jesus, hitting the 3s from mid court
Point Guard: Mao Zedong: cause he was short






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Blue Velvet
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i find it quite funny you get so upset over this apparent affront to Jesus and Christianity but say nothing about the exact same statements being applied to Mohammed and Islam.






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