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Questoin About Financial Advisor - Question for Janky on pg 3

Posted on 4/17/13 at 1:15 pm
Posted by CQQ
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 1:15 pm
My 401K is through Fidelity. I've also opened a Roth IRA on Fidelity's website as well and want to start funding that soon. I have no idea what type of funds to pick. My question is, should I go to a financial advisor in town (Lake Charles)? If I do this, can I still use Fidelity online and they just access my account or what?
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Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 1:34 pm to

Most here don't use FAdvisors. You could subscribe to Bob Brinker Market timer and follow his portfolio advice for $185 / yr. Look online. Most of his portfolios are heavy in Vanguard's total stock market mutual fund and Fidelity has similar funds. Just buy market index mutual funds. It's simple.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 1:41 pm to
Yea most on here will tell you to educate yourself if you haven't already. The funds are usually easy to research. You are looking for probably average to below average risk in funds with the highest rate of return based on the life fund. Vanguard and PIMCO funds are great. Nothing wrong with using a FA, I would just try to research for myself.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 2:05 pm to
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Vanguard's total stock market mutual fund and Fidelity has similar funds


Are these the same as Fielity's Freedom Funds?

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Fidelity Freedom® Funds, also called target date funds, are all-in-one investment strategies that can help take the guesswork out of building and maintaining an age-based retirement portfolio. Each Freedom Fund name includes a date, which can help investors to choose the fund that represents their anticipated year of retirement.


Posted by Broke
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 2:14 pm to
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My question is, should I go to a financial advisor in town (Lake Charles)?


You can but they can't help you.

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If I do this, can I still use Fidelity online and they just access my account or what?


Why would they do this? They aren't getting paid to manage your funds.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 2:40 pm to
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If I do this, can I still use Fidelity online and they just access my account or what?


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Why would they do this? They aren't getting paid to manage your funds


Exactly. Forgot to answer this question.
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 2:45 pm to
Target retirement funds kind of manage themselves as they become more conservative over the years.
Posted by BARNEYSTINSON
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 10:58 pm to
Possibly. You will need to find an advisor that bills for financial planning. He will put together a plan/portfolio, without having the funds. You will just pay him for his services.
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 7:43 am to
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Target retirement funds kind of manage themselves as they become more conservative over the years.


No they don't. Steer clear of these as much as possible.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:01 am to
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No they don't. Steer clear of these as much as possible.


Can you explain? I've gotten this recommendation from a few people, that's why I ask.
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:21 am to
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Can you explain? I've gotten this recommendation from a few people, that's why I ask.


I have two main problem with them first most companies put their own funds inside, so you are putting fees on top of fees.

Secondly, they don't do what they are supposed to do. Go look at the performance of any 2010 target date fund during 2008 and you'll see that most of them lost btw 20-25%. That is way too much risk for a portfolio for someone that is meant to retire in 2 years. Bottow line is they aren't managed well.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:34 am to
Ok, thanks

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Vanguard's total stock market mutual fund and Fidelity has similar funds


Any idea what these are called on Fidelity's site? The reason I started this thread is because every time I attempt to delve into Fidelity's website and pick something, I get too confused and just stop messing with it and it makes me weary of investing.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:56 am to
Is this what I want?



Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:22 am to

Note the expense ratio is only 0.17%, which is pretty low. I don't know if Fidelity charges a fee on top of that though.

Fidelity's focused stock fund looks to have outperformed this one but their expense ratio is 0.93%.

Probably can't go wrong with either. Maybe flip a coin to choose.

Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 11:16 am to
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Nawlens Gator


I appreciate your help. One more thing and I'll quit bugging. If I pick a fund like this, what exactly is my money going to? What am I investing in? As they say, explain it like I'm five
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 11:50 am to
Go to yahoo finance and enter the ticker VTSMX. Then look down the left side of the page and click on holdings. This list the top 10 hildings of the fund. Apple is the number one holding the fund.

VTSMX Holdings
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 11:51 am
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5827 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 12:06 pm to

Stocks and bonds or both. For example the equity mutual funds buy a broad range of stocks that would be almost impossible for a single investor to do. These stocks are owned mutually by all investors who share in dividends, appreciation/depreciation etc. The stocks are selected to achieve the funds selected goals, such as tracking an index like the s&p 500, total stock market, etc.

Buying a broad range of stocks reduces downside risk that you could face if your single stock gets hammered for some unforseen calamity. Note it also limits the upside potential vs a single stocks that experiences a big move to the upside.

I'm no expert, but this is the general idea.

Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 12:16 pm to
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Secondly, they don't do what they are supposed to do. Go look at the performance of any 2010 target date fund during 2008 and you'll see that most of them lost btw 20-25%. That is way too much risk for a portfolio for someone that is meant to retire in 2 years. Bottow line is they aren't managed well.


If they were only down 20-25% during that particular time period they did pretty well considering the performance of other equity investments. Also the effect on someone close to retirement or even already retired is not that bad. They are not going to draw out all of their investment at once, they wuld be down on the mosney they needed during those two years, but the balance of their holdings is left to recover and grow which it is exactly what happened.
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 3:46 pm to
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If they were only down 20-25% during that particular time period they did pretty well considering the performance of other equity investments. Also the effect on someone close to retirement or even already retired is not that bad. They are not going to draw out all of their investment at once, they wuld be down on the mosney they needed during those two years, but the balance of their holdings is left to recover and grow which it is exactly what happened.


you couldn't be more wrong. if a person is that close to retirement they should not be that exposed to the equity market. The idea with target funds is supposed to be that as you get closer to retirement they dial down the risk; and while i agree that 20-25% down compared to the S&P at 37% is great. The point is that a 2010 retirement fund should have not nearly that much equity exposure. If you are set to retire in 2 years do you want your portfolio to be exposed to lose 25% of it's value in one year. Hell no and this is exactly what it did.

Proof that they don't work or do what they are supposed to do.

Posted by Janky
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 7:17 pm to
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whodatigahbait


While I don't agree that you should own any fund that lost that much in 2008 with a few exceptions, I agree with you on that particular retirement fund.
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