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JR Hamilsbach
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re: Did yall know we have the 7th ranked coach in the SEC?


I think Miles is an idiot. Many people in the national media likely share this opinion after numerous bone-headed decisions, which have resulted in intense media scrutiny and numerous jokes made at the expense of Miles and LSU fans. Although I think Miles is an idiot, being successful and being smart aren't causal, but likely correlated. He's been successful IMO despite being dense. If the CC hiring is genius, his affable disposition and leadership qualities will likely override his intellectual deficits and I think it's very possible for us to be contending for a title as early as next year, which would be a feat considering our schedule and departures, but that's how royally I believe Miles has handcuffed the offense. With that being said, I believe all of this:

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He's not the 7th or the 2nd best coach. And yes he's better than Mark Richt.(I really like Richt he's one of the good guys)but he's no Leslie. Miles is the best leader in the SEC when u look at the overall picture. championships , loyalty, integrity, graduation, honesty, sanctions, recruiting, hiring his staff and any other job duty... But I [expect]more than this from the HC at my state university.






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LSUANDY25
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The Tigers also had a disappointing 8-5 2008 campaign and are 1-3 in their last four bowl games.There’s no question Miles is a solid coach, but he has plenty of talent at his disposal, and the Tigers have slightly underachieved.
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On face value this seems to make a little sense, that is, to the average fella who thinks he knows something about football.
But lets look a little closer.
2008 8-5 record Miles' worst.
Ryan Perriloux our starting QB and our best player gets kicked off team before season. Anyone else wanna find out what their record wouldve been in the SEC west that yr without their best player at the QB position. we were forced to play a freshman QB in this league. Lombardi wouldnt have done any better. Take Johnny off the A&M team last yr. Yep 8-5.

1-3 last 4 bowl games
Penn St was very good that yr with 3 NFL LB's. That game was played on the worse field for a major bowl game than anything since like 1940.
I take nothing away from PSU they outplayed us and the field was a mud puddle/ice rink for both teams. But when u have the faster team and play in a mud puddle while driving rain is coming down on u for the entire game, its an advantage to the slower team and we still had the lead with a minute to go. Miles vs Paterno 19-17 in a 3 day monsoon after a total re- sodding 7 days earlier.
Bama in the Nat'l Championship game. That Alabama squad was arguably the best college team ever. Go back and look at history when two teams play twice in the same season.
Clemson game- LSU was the 6th ranked team in the country gets screwed by the bowl committees and we end up having to play Clemson. Nothing to gain for LSU and everything to gain for Clemson. Look at what happened to them in the previous yrs bowl; they were on a mission. We played well enough to win anyway and CLM had his team ready. Clemson's QB played one of the best games u will ever see a QB play under duress. I give Clemson and him credit that was some gutty stuff.
Again lets trade schedules and see how well your coach does in here.

Plenty of talent at his disposal....
Really...Now this one really gets to me.
Does anyone realize just how difficult it is to keep up here in the SEC? Not only is the pressure cooker on 'full go" during the season its also on full blast during recruiting. Something your boy Urban Meyer couldnt stomach another second of, the poor man was losing his health because of this.

BTW on top of trying to keep up, u get to deal with the great Nick Saban in recruiting and he was the head coach for 5 years at your school.
Yep its easy pickings down here, they just line up to play at LSU. Anybody could drag this talent in here every year simple stuff.
Slightly Underachieved?

Which year? 2 years ago when we went 13-0 without a QB and beat Bama at their place or last year when if we wouldve beaten Bama, we wouldve gotten to play Miss St (I Mean Notre Dame) for another natl title. All he had to do last year was completely revamp the entire OL and start 2 freshman in the middle of the season. yep piece of cake.

Other than Richt, who barely made it out of 2011 and Spurrier, hes still standing and was just 1 play away last yr from the whole thing. AGAIN





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Choctaw
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Can't argue with that.


i can argue about the '08 season til the cows come home. they mention '08 like its some kind of standard but completely disregard the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP

for some reason idiots all over seem to think we're the New England Patriots of college football. we have no more talent then any other top SEC team



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LSUANDY25
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Although I think Miles is an idiot, being successful and being smart aren't causal, but likely correlated. He's been successful IMO despite being dense. If the CC hiring is genius, his affable disposition and leadership qualities will likely override his intellectual deficits and I think it's very possible for us to be contending for a title as early as next year, which would be a feat considering our schedule and departures
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JR
Its the leadership qualities that matter when leading men, my friend. Throw in impeccable integrity and u have a guy that u better keep running your multi million dollar business or program for a long time. If we need help with a calculus issue or tax accounting we will call in a High IQ guy like yourself for the nerd work.
U do not have to have a 130+ IQ to be a great leader of men.
But speaking of dense and how that pertains to Miles.
He went on an interview with the great Skip Bertman and landed the HC job at LSU. Do you think Skip asked him a few questions?
For anyone to really believe Miles is dense or is an idiot is laughable.
Let me tell u something JR, theres nothing free or easy about managing a multi million dollar business with 100's of staff members in a very competitive field. One might take over after a great leader and take credit for previous work for a period of time. Many others talk a good game and can fool others for a few months at that job, but in the end if u do not have the necessary skills, u will be exposed. Period.
Well sir, we are in year 9 and he's still here. Eight straight years of very high production does not equate to a dense or stupid Head Coach.
In the end, the breaks will even out,some good some bad, but you really are what your record says you are.
2 years ago was Stud's first yr as a OC, and the QB play was terrible. 13-0
Last year the OL got decimated in mid season, and we were still just 1 play away from stomping the crap out of Notre Dame. Certainly his game day decisions are below average, but its a weakness that can be corrected.




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RedlandsTiger
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Morons...





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Lonnie4LSU
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I think Miles is an idiot


Yeah, that must be why he has been hired by 2 BCS schools, had a 3rd with their plane on the BR airport runway, paid millions, and is one of the very most successful coaches in the game today.

Cause he is an "idiot".

Are you sure you aren't the "idiot"?







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JYD
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umm, more SEC championships
More SEC Championships? I apologize in advance because I'm sure you are older than me based on your nickname, but you are an idiot! You do realize that each of them have 2 SEC Championships don't you?

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more NC championships, more NC appearances.
this one you are correct on. If Richt would've had the benefit of being able to make it to a BCS title game with 2 losses than he would likely have a national championship under his belt too. furthermore based on what I saw in 2012 one could argue that Miles only has 1 BCS appearance bc LSU sure as hell didn't show up for that game.

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don't give me this talent difference garbage; georgia has more talent than louisiana. they are 50% larger. it is LSU than is going into georgia and cherry picking athletes NOT the other way around. richt is the mack brown of the SEC; hell, he's not as good as brown.


I'm talking about the talent on each squad at the time they played. if you think UGA had more talent on their team in any of the last 4 meetings other than 2008 then you are flat wrong! furthermore, ga may have a bigger population based on Atlanta, but it's a fact that La has more NFL talent per capita than georgia. that's why saban came here in 2000. he knew the talent was in the state and knew there were no other schools within the state that would/could compete with him to recruit that talent if he got the recruiting tools in place. UGA on the other hand has several schools that they have to compete with for top tier talent. Ga Tech is close obviously. Auburn is pretty close. Clemson & South Carolina also.

Once again another LSU fan's logic is flawed.

I'm not saying Richt is better than Miles. I'm just arguing because most of you Miles backers think that Miles is head and shoulders better than MR and he's simply not.





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MarlinMan
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re: Did yall know we have the 7th ranked coach in the SEC?


Moffitt and Chavis are respected by the press WAY more than Les....





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Maximus
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as they should be





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ProjectP2294
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JYD


You sound really upset.






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JYD
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You sound really upset.



Not at all! I just don't understand why people can't come close to an unbiased opinion as far as Miles goes.

They like to think Miles is right there with Saban because he's had success against him (3-4 record)even though he has nowhere near the hardware that Saban has. Then on the other hand they insinuate that Miles is head and shoulders above Richt because Miles has a BCS championship to his credit and has played in another and Richt has played in none. The kicker is Richt is 2-2 vs Miles. See what I'm saying? They pick and choose their criteria for saying why they believe Miles is from what I can tell the #2 coach in the nation when comparing to Saban, but don't use the same criteria when comparing Richt to Miles. I just don't understand why people can't be unbiased.

Bottom line: Is Miles a good coach? Obviously. Is he top 5 in the nation? Hell no!






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L S Usetheforce
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Who would you put in front of miles besides Saban....don't spit out some crap either like Brian Kelly.






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JBeam
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miles besides Saban....don't spit out some crap either like Brian Kelly.


In all of CFB? I think you cold make an argument from Spurrier.






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L S Usetheforce
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Except that he hasn't beaten miles.....that kinda hurts the argument.

And yes in all of college football.



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LSU Groupee
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Bottom line: Is Miles a good coach? Obviously. Is he top 5 in the nation? Hell no!


Name me five with better records in the last eight years while playing in a major college
football conference?

Name me one with more west titles in the last eight years or more SEC titles.







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JYD
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Who would you put in front of miles besides Saban....don't spit out some crap either like Brian Kelly.


Why not Brian Kelly? He did just have an undefeated season and played a pretty tough schedule.

I'll list the ones I would put in front of Miles
Saban, Meyer, Spurrier, & Kelly at least. The reason I name these is I think if you put 2 equally talented teams on the field I think these 4 would beat Miles more often that not.

There are at least the same amount that I would put right there with Miles but cant differentiate whether I would put them ahead of or behind him.

The point is I don't think Miles top 3 coach just because he coaches as LSU and that is exactly why most of you feel the way you do about him. If he were at Florida and had a BCSC, but had made all the bone-headed game-day errors that he has made at LSU and his offense sucked at Fla like it does here year in and year out you would be laughing at the notion that he is a top 3 coach. Its true and you all know it!





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SaintLSUnAtl
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I love the argument about having talent. I thought it was Miles and his staff that brought in that talent, which is a pretty significant part of being a college coach





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KennesawTiger
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I love the argument about having talent. I thought it was Miles and his staff that brought in that talent, which is a pretty significant part of being a college coach


No, not at all. LSU recruits itself.

Signed,

The 90's






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JYD
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No, not at all. LSU recruits itself.

Signed,

The 90's


So you're insinuating that LSU didn't recuit well during the 90's. I can't speak about the early 90's because that's before i started following recruiting, but Dinardo brought in some top 10 classes during his tenure and many of those went onto the NFL. LSU does recuit itself especially now with the facilities in place that they have.






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L S Usetheforce
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Brian Kelly couldn't keep the score within 30 against Alabama, even with a TERRIBLE gameplan Miles was still only 21-0 loser.........

Meyer split with Miles...........See nothing wrong with it.

Spurrier........like I said, never has beaten him

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The reason I name these is I think if you put 2 equally talented teams on the field I think these 4 would beat Miles more often that not.


So Florida wasn't as talented as LSU when Tebow came to Tiger stadium in 2007 or Spurrier's Team last year that beat the crap out of Michigan.....

Even last year against Bama, one broken assignment cost the Tigers.......

Get that shite out.......yall always pick and chose in the argument of Miles............but when you look at the whole picture......yall have nothing to stand on but hate.






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