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DawgfaninCa
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With all the children being born into single parent homes these days, I welcome gay couples adopting. Studies show that 2 parents (any combination) are better than 1.


Then why has the Left been promoting single motherhood for the past 20+ years?







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DawgfaninCa
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Thats because people like to think they know what natural means and not actually look to nature and see what is there.


Just because it is "natural" for some animals to eat their own shite does that mean it is okay for humans to eat their own shit?








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DawgfaninCa
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Member since Sep 2012
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...Revelator, you seem like those types who walk into a gay bar with a shotgun and start mowing people down.

You really have some major anger at gay people. Not just principled moral objection, but really serious hate-driven anger.


That is BS. Rev has done nothing but try to have a civil dialogue with you people from another galaxy.

It is outrageous that you would lay that crap on his doorstep.









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ChineseBandit58
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This notion that marriage has been this stable unchanging institution for thousands of years and this change will completely upset the apple cart is just ridiculous.

A marriage has always been the announced intention of a man and a woman to live together as a family unit and to provide for themselves and their progeny. This meant the handing down of property to that progeny - and over the ages different methods of doing that have evolved. What hasn't changed is the genesis of the family unit - a man and a woman with the intent of being considered a unit by the community.

The fact that we have nibbled away at this concept over the past half century does not alter the basic facts in any way.

This is just a goddamned fad - not much more relevant that hula-hoops. We have a lot of mush-minded people running around wanting a 'cause' to protest about and form parades about so they can create some "war stories" for reminiscing with their libtarded brethren.

There is no right anywhere in logical thought for men to 'marry' men. It is a bastardination of the language as well as just another attack on the traditional family unit.

This whole thing is nothing more than another attack to lessen the impact of a family. As long as there are strong traditional families, the future of the nation is secure.

With the dissolution of this glue that holds civilization together we have already seen the deliterious impacts it has had on our culture. This is just another bullet into a wounded institution.

carry on. You can screw a knot hole in an locust tree for all I care. Hell, maybe you can even marry one after this fad plays out.






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ApexTiger
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58..that was pretty well thought out, thanks





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LSUwag
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I thought about this issue as well. Maybe the States will finally be forced to make divorce laws fair and without a gender bias against men.





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VOR
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New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
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Several legal questions arise, imo, on gay marriage that I haven't seen asked just yet.



Not really. There should be no problems at all as far as the law is concerned. This is a non-existent issue.

1. The "maternal preference" rule has been abandoned in most states as far as I can tell.

2. The statutes use the terms "parent" and "spouse". I've never seen a single provision use the terms "mom" and "dad". The statutes are gender neutral.

3. Louisiana, along with most states, has moved toward "shared custody" as the preferred arrangement. If someone like SFP argues otherwise, he or she is full of shite. In fact, Jefferson Parish, for example, has become almost downright hostile to the idea of the mother being the custodial parent in the last couple of years.

4. It may be true that, statistically, mothers will have a slight edge when it comes to custody of very young children. But that's because a) more mothers tend to have given up, at least temporarily, their career in order to care for the child and b) most custody evaluators (child pychs./social workers) believe that the maternal bond is particularly important with children of a very young age.

5. Custody is decided on the "best interest of the child". Support is decided based upon relative incomes.

6. There is no reason there should be any difference with same sex couples.






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dominustd
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Maybe the States will finally be forced to make divorce laws fair and without a gender bias against men.


Yeah, right. That will NEVER happen, but IF gay marriage is adopted, there will be much fairer divorce laws for gays without a doubt.






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JabarkusRussell
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How can the courts automatically favor the moms like they do now if there are 2 moms?





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JabarkusRussell
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I actually read a few months ago that lesbians have the highest divorce rates. It was in the 90% range.


Proof that it's the women's fault.






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ocelot4ark
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Men are so severely disadvantaged in child custody hearings it's not even funny. I'd welcome this by-product, should the time come. Men are fricked over EVERY SINGLE DAY in this country...not because they're bad dads. Not because they ever did anything wrong. In fact, it can absolutely be the other way around. Abusive mothers with drug histories...but yet, the judge will grant custody to the woman because...she's the woman. This is actually how it works a lot of the times. No other basis...just this general, subjective feeling without respect to your attributes as a father.

frick. That.

I've read some cases where guys had their kids taken away only to later have CPS take the kids away from the mom for drugs and subsequent malnutrition of the kids. Guy told the court and brought evidence that the woman was a drug addict, and had even prostituted herself on occasion. Court says..."Mother granted primary custody."

If you're a dad, or ever want to be, you should absolutely be in favor of overhaul in child custody cases. People in our country are whining about any/everything...except us. You don't hear men making any loud noises in front of cameras about being horribly disadvantaged, when we're facing perhaps the biggest disadvantage of any class of people in our society. No one is more shite on in this country than a man who's had his kids taken away from him simply because he has a penis.






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Diamondawg
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Deadbeat dads - in a gay marriage

On my long of things to worry about, this would maybe 1,000,000th






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Layabout
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It was in the 90% range. Gay men was in the 80% range and heterosexuals was slightly above 50%. With second and third marriages being between 70 and 80% divorce rates.

There haven't been any really definitive studies but the figures you cite are totally unrealistic. Try this on for size:

LINK






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NaturalBeam
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Just because it is "natural" for some animals to eat their own shite does that mean it is okay for humans to eat their own shit?
how long is the list of activities that you constantly worry about others partaking in? Between trying to micro-manage the lives of every person in this country using big government laws and posting emoticons, I don't know how you have time to leave the house.






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VOR
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New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
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Men are so severely disadvantaged in child custody hearings it's not even funny.


Historically, perhaps, but not as much today.






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ocelot4ark
Arkansas Fan
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Member since Oct 2009
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What makes you think that?






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VOR
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What makes you think that?


Practicing family law and representing mothers and fathers in Louisiana and California.






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DawgfaninCa
Georgia Fan
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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how long is the list of activities that you constantly worry about others partaking in?


I don't "constantly worry" about anything others partake in.

However, you people from another galaxy who are on this site must constantly worry about how I'm wiping your butts in this debate.

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Between trying to micro-manage the lives of every person in this country using big government laws and posting emoticons, I don't know how you have time to leave the house.


You are living in a fantasy world if you believe in "pure anarchy" and you think society doesn't have the right to pass laws that set moral standards everyone must go by.


BTW, I find it a bit creepy that it bothers you so much that I post the emoticon after all of my posts.








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VOR
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
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you people from another galaxy who are on this site must constantly worry about how I'm wiping your butts in this debate.


Uh, actually, you're not doing particularly well. Sorry.

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You are living in a fantasy world if you believe in "pure anarchy" and you think society doesn't have the right to pass laws that set moral standards everyone must go by.


So where does the moral legislation stop?

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BTW, I find it a bit creepy that it bothers you so much that I post the emoticon after all of my posts.


Frankly the constant emoticon makes it very difficult to take you seriously.






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ocelot4ark
Arkansas Fan
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Wouldn't you say that a lot of the results will be based on subjective matters.

Why are women overwhelmingly granted custody?






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