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Statement on Red Snapper Enforcement
Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:53 pm
LDWF Enforcement Agents will be focusing enforcement efforts
beyond the nine nautical mile line to ensure compliance with requirements in
the EEZ. It is our understanding that NOAA and Coast Guard will be focusing
enforcement efforts between the traditional 3 mile line and the 9 nautical
mile line because the federal government has not recognized the LDWF
Commissions change of the territorial sea line.
beyond the nine nautical mile line to ensure compliance with requirements in
the EEZ. It is our understanding that NOAA and Coast Guard will be focusing
enforcement efforts between the traditional 3 mile line and the 9 nautical
mile line because the federal government has not recognized the LDWF
Commissions change of the territorial sea line.
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:59 pm to Dissident Aggressor
quote:
because the federal government has not recognized the LDWF
Commissions change of the territorial sea line.
WTF?
Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:30 pm to Dissident Aggressor
quote:
Coast Guard
I'll believe it when I see it. Huge waste of money if any ships are deployed to see if snapper are caught AND kept past 3 miles.
Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:31 pm to Dissident Aggressor
It will be interesting to say the least.
Never thought I would see a fishing trip come to all this..
Be sure you have your harvest permit.
Never thought I would see a fishing trip come to all this..
Be sure you have your harvest permit.
Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:44 pm to Kajungee
Let it began, sink them boys and ask your congressman to defund the fricking coast guard now!
Posted on 3/20/13 at 11:03 pm to TutHillTiger
quote:
ask your congressman to defund the fricking coast guard now!
USCG = Uncle Sam's Confused Group
Posted on 3/20/13 at 11:05 pm to EOT
quote:
I'll believe it when I see it. Huge waste of money if any ships are deployed to see if snapper are caught AND kept past 3 miles.
If they do...
Posted on 3/21/13 at 5:27 am to EOT
quote:
I'll believe it when I see it. Huge waste of money if any ships are deployed to see if snapper are caught AND kept past 3 miles.
Years ago I had one chase me down. I had the family on board. My kids were under 14 years old. When they came aside, they were armed with M16's and a 50 cal, pointing that shite at us. WTF? Man, did I bitch big time at the head chesse. Once I did that, that is when he told everybody to drop there arms. Still pissed me off big time and of course they didn't board me.
I had LWL&F's board me out there. Was well over 30 miles out. Another one of those WTF's.
They went thru my boat from top to bottom. Checked everything. Took them more then a hour. Know how many spots there are to be checked on a 32' sportsfisher. 
Posted on 3/21/13 at 5:35 am to fishfighter
I have seen them over 60 miles out checking during the summer. There were a lot of commercial trawlers working the canyon that day, so I'm sure that is what got them out there.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 7:58 am to EOT
So the coast guard is going to piss away money to go out there and make sure a few snapper aren't caught, but we can't afford to give tours of the White House? What a load of shite!
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:12 am to Dissident Aggressor
quote:
LDWF Enforcement Agents will be focusing enforcement efforts
beyond the nine nautical mile line to ensure compliance with requirements in
the EEZ. It is our understanding that NOAA and Coast Guard will be focusing
enforcement efforts between the traditional 3 mile line and the 9 nautical
mile line because the federal government has not recognized the LDWF
Commissions change of the territorial sea line.
got a link brah?
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:24 am to TJG210
quote:
So the coast guard is going to piss away money to go out there and make sure a few snapper aren't caught, but we can't afford to give tours of the White House?
I mean.... I do hold red snapper sustainability in a much higher level of concern than White House tours...
That said, we need about 4 or 5 vessels willing to beach themselves on a bar. The Coast Guard can't ignore stranded boaters to check snapper limits.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:47 am to Jester
What the OP said might be true (although no link yet), but PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, Wildlife agents are going to be enforcing at the docks. The feds are going to be enforcing outward beyond 3 miles, but not actively and with little presence.
That's just my humble opinion. The following is not legal advice: If you catch a Snapper this weekend and make it back to the dock, you will be OK. If you catch Snapper within ten miles and are stopped by WLF between 3 and 10 miles, you will be OK. If you catch Snapper anywhere and are stopped by the federales, you will be our Guinea pig.
That's just my humble opinion. The following is not legal advice: If you catch a Snapper this weekend and make it back to the dock, you will be OK. If you catch Snapper within ten miles and are stopped by WLF between 3 and 10 miles, you will be OK. If you catch Snapper anywhere and are stopped by the federales, you will be our Guinea pig.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:49 am to Motorboat
Our crew is busy with other plans this weekend, so I'll be in the canoe in the marsh instead of in the Gulf. Soon, though.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:54 am to Motorboat
The OP got that from an email exchange with LDWF... I'll post
quote:
To: Einck, Adam
Subject: RE: [Enforcement] LA State Red Snapper Season
Our (LCUDC) question is what are the legal limits to take Red Snapper off of LA
water doing the LA Red Snapper Seasons. Will it be the tradition 3 nautical
miles or will it be the disputed 9 nautical miles? Our understanding is that State
Agents will not enforced the Federal regulations at the dock or in state
waters either the 3 miles or the disputed 9 miles, is that correct. Not
withstanding that, a Federal agent could and probably would enforce a
fisherman caught past the 3 miles disputed state waters, is that correct?
Thanks
Terry Migaud, LCUDC Sec/tre
From: Einck, Adam
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 9:54 AM
To: tgmigaud@cox.net
Subject: RE: [Enforcement] LA State Red Snapper Season
Mr. Megaud: LDWF Enforcement Agents will be focusing enforcement efforts
beyond the nine nautical mile line to ensure compliance with requirements in
the EEZ. It is our understanding that NOAA and Coast Guard will be focusing
enforcement efforts between the traditional 3 mile line and the 9 nautical
mile line because the federal government has not recognized the LDWF
Commissions change of the territorial sea line.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:03 am to mylsuhat
quote:
LDWF Enforcement Agents will be focusing enforcement efforts beyond the nine nautical mile line
This makes no sense. LDWF has no jurisdiction beyond/outside of the state waters recently claimed. Why would LDWF patrol/enforce outside of 10 miles? this is retarded and whomever wrote this is confused as to the department's stance on enforcement (I think the dept is deliberately confused, BTW).
Pardon my ignorance, can someone define what is the "EEZ"? I know it stands for Economic Exclusion Zone, but where does this lie?
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:05 am to Motorboat
quote:Just posting what was said
This makes no sense. LDWF has no jurisdiction beyond/outside of the state waters recently claimed.
But yeah, I dont get it either because they said they will not be putting Federal Agents on the boats
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:11 am to mylsuhat
this just from CCA email blast:
Louisiana Offers Further Clarification
on 2013 Red Snapper Season
The Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries takes the bold action to move forward with a Louisiana-only recreational red snapper season.
The Louisiana-only Season
Beginning this Saturday, March 23, Louisiana will implement a weekend-only recreational red snapper season that will end on September 30, with a recreational bag limit of three fish per day at a 16-inch minimum.
A weekend is defined as Friday, Saturday and Sunday, with the exception of Memorial Day and Labor Day, when Monday will be classified as a weekend day as well.
“One day we will look back on today’s actions and see them as a historic move for Louisiana recreational anglers and for our abundant natural resources,” said LDWF Secretary Robert Barham. “No longer will we sit idly by, as our fates are determined by someone with so little understanding of our fisheries and a refusal to negotiate. Whether their actions are ones of arrogance or fear, we join our Gulf neighbors in Texas and Florida, who implemented similar state-by-state regulations today, in standing up to NOAA and showing them that their strong-arm tactics will not work on us.”
LDWF Secretary Robert Barham was given the authority to modify the portions of this rule pertaining to red snapper recreational daily harvest limits and season if NOAA instituted sub-regional management for the species or if it is otherwise deemed necessary.
“Louisiana’s recreational fishing community has spoken and we have listened,” said LDWF Assistant Secretary Randy Pausina, head of fisheries for Louisiana. “In this unprecedented move, our department is challenging the recommendations set by NOAA through the National Marine Fisheries Service. Our actions may seem rogue, but I assure you we have not entered into this lightly or without great thought. We plan to conduct our own research, analysis and make our own decisions on what is best for Louisiana anglers and our resource. For years the wishes of our anglers have fallen on deaf ears… that ends now.”
The Louisiana Gulfward Boundary
In June 2012 the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission took action to extend Louisiana state waters from three miles offshore to three marine leagues or approximately 10.357 miles.
LDWF officials encourage fishermen to use caution and their own personal judgment when fishing beyond the three mile boundary that is currently recognized as federal waters, as it is fully expected that federal agents will continue to enforce federal law. Until the time when the US Congress confirms Louisiana’s action, the battle will continue over Louisiana’s state water boundary.
The Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries is charged with managing and protecting Louisiana’s abundant resources. For more information, visit their website at www.wlf.louisiana.gov or follow them on Facebook at www.facebook.com/ldwffb or follow them on Twitter @LDWF.
Louisiana Offers Further Clarification
on 2013 Red Snapper Season
The Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries takes the bold action to move forward with a Louisiana-only recreational red snapper season.
The Louisiana-only Season
Beginning this Saturday, March 23, Louisiana will implement a weekend-only recreational red snapper season that will end on September 30, with a recreational bag limit of three fish per day at a 16-inch minimum.
A weekend is defined as Friday, Saturday and Sunday, with the exception of Memorial Day and Labor Day, when Monday will be classified as a weekend day as well.
“One day we will look back on today’s actions and see them as a historic move for Louisiana recreational anglers and for our abundant natural resources,” said LDWF Secretary Robert Barham. “No longer will we sit idly by, as our fates are determined by someone with so little understanding of our fisheries and a refusal to negotiate. Whether their actions are ones of arrogance or fear, we join our Gulf neighbors in Texas and Florida, who implemented similar state-by-state regulations today, in standing up to NOAA and showing them that their strong-arm tactics will not work on us.”
LDWF Secretary Robert Barham was given the authority to modify the portions of this rule pertaining to red snapper recreational daily harvest limits and season if NOAA instituted sub-regional management for the species or if it is otherwise deemed necessary.
“Louisiana’s recreational fishing community has spoken and we have listened,” said LDWF Assistant Secretary Randy Pausina, head of fisheries for Louisiana. “In this unprecedented move, our department is challenging the recommendations set by NOAA through the National Marine Fisheries Service. Our actions may seem rogue, but I assure you we have not entered into this lightly or without great thought. We plan to conduct our own research, analysis and make our own decisions on what is best for Louisiana anglers and our resource. For years the wishes of our anglers have fallen on deaf ears… that ends now.”
The Louisiana Gulfward Boundary
In June 2012 the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission took action to extend Louisiana state waters from three miles offshore to three marine leagues or approximately 10.357 miles.
LDWF officials encourage fishermen to use caution and their own personal judgment when fishing beyond the three mile boundary that is currently recognized as federal waters, as it is fully expected that federal agents will continue to enforce federal law. Until the time when the US Congress confirms Louisiana’s action, the battle will continue over Louisiana’s state water boundary.
The Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries is charged with managing and protecting Louisiana’s abundant resources. For more information, visit their website at www.wlf.louisiana.gov or follow them on Facebook at www.facebook.com/ldwffb or follow them on Twitter @LDWF.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:17 am to Motorboat
Was just about to post that.
If Billy Broussard was accurate with his info last night, then you hit it right on the head. If you follow the rules that are set in stone, you'll have a happy pallet of red snapper.
If Billy Broussard was accurate with his info last night, then you hit it right on the head. If you follow the rules that are set in stone, you'll have a happy pallet of red snapper.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:20 am to DINGBAT
I'm actually glad I'm going turkey hunting instead of going fight this shite this weekend.
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