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Landscape Lighting

Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:57 am
Posted by trebmalenad
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:57 am
I have 2 crape mrytles in my front yard. I want to do the whole light shining up the trunks. I think it looks awesome. How are these lights wired? Are they just wired into an outdoor electrical outlet with a timer? That seems the most logical to me.

Also, how much should I spend on a decent quality spot light? LED or flood?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:58 am to
you could get the solar ones and not worry about wiring
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:59 am to
go to the low voltage lighting section at lowes/HD, choose how many light you want, match the box wattage up to how many lights and enjoy

Yes the box just plugs into an outlet, you can set them up on a timer or with a light sensor to turn on at dark
Posted by meauxjeaux2
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:00 am to
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This post was edited on 3/20/13 at 10:01 am
Posted by Drop4Loss
Birds Eye Of Deaf Valley
Member since Oct 2007
3867 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:00 am to
Just go to the depot and get a say four bulb stringer set of LV lites. Bulbs/fixtures are the snap in pin style, say 40 watts is plenty

Control box is 110 V can go on the outside of house, then run the LV wire to tree.

Easy to do
Posted by Bubba Bexley
Member since May 2007
3579 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:02 am to
I bought the home depot kit. looks good, easy to install, and inexpensive.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:02 am to
you're desiring this effect?
Posted by trebmalenad
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:06 am to
quote:

you're desiring this effect?


Yes.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:07 am to
those are halogens. One step above that would be Metal Halide but that gets pretty expensive.
Posted by trebmalenad
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2006
138 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:07 am to
quote:

you could get the solar ones and not worry about wiring


I feel like these aren't bright enough to shine all the way up the trunk.
Posted by trident
Member since Jul 2007
4751 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:11 am to
quote:

I feel like these aren't bright enough to shine all the way up the trunk.


they are not. like someone said go to Lowes/HD and you can get the kit for ~$200
Posted by BamaFxst
Piperton, TN
Member since Nov 2011
38 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:35 am to
Malibu Led lights from Home Depot.
Posted by Corn Dawg Nation
Member since Oct 2009
3530 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Malibu Led lights from Home Depot.


This. I wouldn't get the kit either. I'd buy separates and make your own set up. Buy lights and a big enough transformer for the desired lights. The kits aren't as powerful as I'd like.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11895 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Malibu Led lights from Home Depot.



This. Couple a small transformer with it and you've got a setup.

I just installed a set of them on a friend's sign in front of his business. They are EXTREMELY efficient and low voltage. I buried the cable along the edge of the slab and then ran it into some conduit once I got out front.

This is what I used - 50 watt equivalent (runs on about 15-20 watts if I remember) and 280 lumens. It is bright enough to light a sign. It'll be bright enough for trees.

You can mount the light with a stake or use a 1/2" conduit piece. The end is threaded.

Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8399 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 12:18 pm to
I hate to disagree with the HD Lowes stuff but you will be very disappoint if you go that route....esp for uptree lighting

Go to landscapelightingworld.com

They have easy to follow road maps for laying out voltage runs and very good pricing. The box store transformers are cheap and will suffer from voltage drop with runs that require up lighting trees. Get a remote , in ground station that you can branch off on and you will be very happy with the results
This post was edited on 3/20/13 at 12:20 pm
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45814 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Go to landscapelightingworld.com


Bookmarked that...
Posted by Big Worm
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
578 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 1:02 pm to
At one house, I put in the kit from lowes. It works, lights look good. You do not get much control options, it has an eye and all you can set is the length of time it stays on. The lights themselves do not last very long, they rust out quick. Also you can not add too many more lights to the transformer you get.

At the other house I put in a stainless Kischler transformer. It has complete control options, lots of power to add on, and a lifetime warranty, and different voltage outputs. Then I bought the cheap lights that come with the lowes kit. I spent my money on the good transformer and control system, and I will replace the cheap lights with Kischler LED's as they rot out.

Watch out. The wire can get expensive, if you have a long run use heavier wire (I used 12-2) and/or run it back to the transformer to make a complete loop. You could also used a higher voltage if you get the kischler.

Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11895 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

The box store transformers are cheap and will suffer from voltage drop with runs that require up lighting trees.


This becomes null and void when you are using low voltage, low current, low wattage lighting like LEDs. LEDs don't rely on heat to operate like halogen and incandescent lights do and even a slight voltage drop will not dim the lights enough to be discernible to the human eye.

But then again, I'm only an electrical engineer, what do I know?

quote:

The lights themselves do not last very long, they rust out quick.


This is also null and void when you get LED lighting. LEDs are completely contained and have no "filament" like an incandescent bulb does.

Of course, you still need to seal the wiring properly, but there is nearly zero risk of the "bulbs" "rusting" out because they are entirely contained.

quote:

Watch out. The wire can get expensive, if you have a long run use heavier wire (I used 12-2) and/or run it back to the transformer to make a complete loop. You could also used a higher voltage if you get the kischler.


You also do not need to use heavy wiring if you use LED lights. They require a lot less current than regular lighting and current is what causes wires to heat up. This is why tazers can run high voltages and not burn your body when shocked. They run at thousands or millions of volts but the current is extremely low so you don't get burned.

LEDs are absolutely the way to go. Order from where you want, but I highly suggest a 12V LED system over any high-wattage incandescent crap.

EDIT: Admins anchoring shite is getting irritating.
This post was edited on 3/20/13 at 4:23 pm
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