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Why don't more conferences award automatic bids to reg season champs?

Posted on 3/13/13 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
74038 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 2:24 pm
I don't understand the logic for a smaller conference to NOT award its regular season champ with an automatic bid. You've proven yourself throughout the course of the season, you won your conference. Then, during some flukey 3 day tourny, you drop a heartbreaker to the 4th best team in your conference and now you're out of the big dance.

Seems like these conferences would want to be represented in the tourny by their best team, no?

Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
25716 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 2:26 pm to
It's kind of illogical. The season is just a long tournament.

But they want the excitement of the tournament.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 2:26 pm to
I think you make a meritorious argument.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65531 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 2:26 pm to
I agree.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22597 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 2:30 pm to
Conference tournament $$$$$$

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Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11858 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 2:36 pm to
don't some conferences essentially give the reg season champs a bye all the way to the semis?


I'd take it a step further: reg season champs get a bye all the way to the finals, and they get home court advantage.
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5428 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 2:39 pm to
Signed,

MTSU
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 2:40 pm to
Because they want the check ESPN will cut them.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22597 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

don't some conferences essentially give the reg season champs a bye all the way to the semis?


I think so. I can promise these smaller conferences would never have their championship games on ESPN though if they weren't playing for an NCAAt bid.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22597 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 2:41 pm to
Pretty much anytime you find yourself asking "why do they do this" in college athletics, the answer is always money.
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
Moose Jaw, SK
Member since Sep 2008
3160 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 2:42 pm to
I agree. I guess the tournament's make money, but still, seems like you would want your "best" representing, unlike WKU last year or Liberty this year.

The Big Sky, who now has 11 teams only lets 7 into the tourney.

Basically, the No 1 and hosting team plays the lowest remaning seed of 3 prelim games.

It should be done this way.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
74038 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Pretty much anytime you find yourself asking "why do they do this" in college athletics, the answer is always money
true

still think that a 14-16 team from a scrub conference that gets a 16 seed and gets drubbed in the first round does your conference a disservice.

I like the way the NAIA does it. Most of the "major" conferences get 2 automatic bids. One for the regular season champ and one for the tourny champ. If the regular season champ wins the tourny, than the tourny runner up gets the auto bid

ETA: perhaps the smaller conferences could literally give the reg season champ an automatic spot in the finals of the conference tourney. Thus maintaining an exciting event while still stacking the odds in your champ's favor. I dunno
This post was edited on 3/13/13 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

don't some conferences essentially give the reg season champs a bye all the way to the semis? I'd take it a step further: reg season champs get a bye all the way to the finals, and they get home court advantage.



I like this alot
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 3:43 pm to
They should make the tourney champs play the reg season champs in a 3 game series.

Even more $$$ and better idea of who should go
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22597 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

still think that a 14-16 team from a scrub conference that gets a 16 seed and gets drubbed in the first round does your conference a disservice.


It probably does, but chances are the regular season champ from that conference would probably get beaten too. The disservice done when a 14-16 team gets waxed is nowhere near a big enough pain to give up the big money from the conference tournament TV deals they get.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
74038 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

It probably does, but chances are the regular season champ from that conference would probably get beaten too.
not necessarily...

quote:

nowhere near a big enough pain to give up the big money from the conference tournament TV deals they get.
I get that, which is why people in this thread offered comprimises in keeping a tourny, but still giving the reg season champs overwhelming odds to win it
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
7193 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 4:07 pm to
As with everything in college sports its about the money. I like that alot of conference are giving their reg season champ a bye to the semis.

As someone who follows the smaller conferences, giving an auto bid to the reg season champ would create alot of interesting scenarios during the final week.

See the ivy league this year.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55030 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 4:12 pm to
it would also make January games more meaningful...

my idea for the power conferences is to exempt the top two teams from a conference tourney since they should be getting in anyway. it gives more chance for a school that needs the automatic bid to win it
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22596 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 4:15 pm to
the simple answer is money... the smaller conferences use their tournament as major source of income, i imagine.
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