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Duke is going old, OLD school on offense next season

Posted on 3/11/13 at 8:36 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64955 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 8:36 am
Say hello to the rebirth of the single wing.

USA Today

Here's the offense in action at the high school level. You don't see this crap in college anymore:

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Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43077 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 8:42 am to
Thats a nightmare.
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
17995 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 8:49 am to
With the kind of defensive speed thats prevalent on the college level, I just don't see how that's going to work.

But good luck to them.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30819 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 8:58 am to
Didn't people say similar things about Tech when Paul Johnson went there? They have done quite well on offense considering the marginal, at best, talent they get.
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 9:06 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Didn't people say similar things about Tech when Paul Johnson went there? They have done quite well on offense considering the marginal, at best, talent they get.


2 things. First, Paul Johnson had some stud Chain Gailey recruits his first year (Demariyus Thomas, Jonathan Dwyer, Josh Nesbitt, etc). He inherited a perfect scenario to run that offense.

And as for your last sentence, what happened at tech is exactly what's gonna happen at duke. The first year, MAYBE 2, duke will actually have some success due to a)people being totally unfamiliar with scheming against it and only being able to devote 1 week to do so and b)the players they currently have will probably be servicable.

The major problems with duke, just like at tech, are gonna really show through after about 2 years. High school kids don't want to play for an offense like that. No WR is gonna go because they just block all the time, most good QBs won't go because they'll never get to throw, many OL won't go because all they do is run block every down. And most good defenders won't go because they'll just play against that crap all day everyday in practice.

I think it's a neat idea and will probably turn some heads and raise some eyebrows in year 1 and 2. But then they're gonna really be in trouble.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 9:31 am to
I'd rather run a few of those and replace a few I formations, FB dives up the middle on 3rd and 4, and Spencer Ware wildcat plays.

Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 9:35 am to
quote:

I'd rather run a few of those and replace a few I formations, FB dives up the middle on 3rd and 4, and Spencer Ware wildcat plays.


Great point. If you ran one of those maybe 7-10 times I game I think it'd be far more effective than doing it the whole game.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27872 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:09 am to
I wanted to watch that video, but I heard that song and immediately quit.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:10 am to
I remember Boise State running a triple option out of a wing formation before they became good enough to line up on offense in a pro set. I think Oregon ran a lot of triple option out of the wing about ten years ago too.

I'd say the problem will be recruits, but it's not like Duke was getting great recruits anyway.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76509 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:32 am to
That first video was hard to watch. Wow.

In reference to the players not wanting to go to Duke. Top recruits never want to go there now anyway. With this system they could potentially get a stud athlete to run QB like a Russell.Shepard type guy. And you don't have to have huge OL with this system, there will be plenty of guys to choose from.
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32780 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:09 am to
I guess it allows them to diversify themselves in recruiting. Duke isn't exactly in play for top end talent on a yearly basis. By going after specific types of players to fill needs in this offense, it may be a positive.

Now, as far as translation to wins on the field.. that's a different story.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:47 am to
Coach Weiner just got a chubbie.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:53 am to
quote:

With this system they could potentially get a stud athlete to run QB like a Russell.Shepard type guy.


No major athlete is gonna play in an offense like that at Duke. Tech is far more of a "football school" than duke, and the QB talent PJ has recruited there is extremely average. You aren't gonna get a stud QB to come to a school and throw the ball 50 times in a season.

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64955 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:54 am to
Yeah...Cutcliffe has apparently been planning to switch to this offense since he got there and has been quietly recruiting players to fit into this offense. That offense could consistently work in a conference like the ACC. It's Duke. They're happy with 6 wins. An offense like this, if run right, would give that to them consistently.

I just know this particular offense is freaking old. Alabama ran it when Wallace Wade was here winning Rose Bowls in the 20s.



This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 11:55 am
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:56 am to
I think it is a response to pro-style players leaving the program this year. They dont have the personel to compete like they did this past year. Should be interdasting to see how it works out. Its not like the ACC has overpowering defenses anyway.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:57 am to
quote:

I remember Boise State running a triple option out of a wing formation before they became good enough to line up on offense in a pro set.


As a 1AA team? Boise State has been a "pro set" team since at least Houston Nutt. You are probable thinking of another team
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 11:58 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:57 am to
For teams that can't bring in talent this is a great choice. I wouldn't be surprised to see more teams revert back to option type offenses. Defesnses never get to see them anymore with all the spread offenses.
Posted by WmWallace
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
1820 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:07 pm to
But I thought Ole Miss should have never fired Cutcliffe..what were we thinking!
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:15 pm to
quote:


But I thought Ole Miss should have never fired Cutcliffe..what were we thinking!


They shouldn't have, he was one of the best things to happen to that program.
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