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Bloomberg stretching those brain muscles


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Furthermore, while saying the federal deficit does indeed need to be curtailed, Mr. Bloomberg argued the United States could owe “an infinite amount of money” and there is no specific amount that would cause the country to default.

“We are spending money we don’t have,” Mr. Bloomberg explained. “It’s not like your household. In your household, people are saying, ‘Oh, you can’t spend money you don’t have.’ That is true for your household because nobody is going to lend you an infinite amount of money. When it comes to the United States federal government, people do seem willing to lend us an infinite amount of money. … Our debt is so big and so many people own it that it’s preposterous to think that they would stop selling us more. It’s the old story: If you owe the bank $50,000, you got a problem. If you owe the bank $50 million, they got a problem. And that’s a problem for the lenders. They can’t stop lending us more money.”


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boosiebadazz
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so where is he wrong?





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Antonio Moss
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so where is he wrong?


Assuming there is some mythical point where lenders stop caring about getting their money back.






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CptBengal
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so where is he wrong?

he makes one major assumption...that people will continue to buy our debt.

It is reasonable that since we are tied to oil...that they may no longer wish to purchase our debt if there is a change in that commodity.






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PrimeTime Money
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Well, he's actually right.

The problem is that eventually, people will stop lending. It won't last forever.

It is just that nobody knows when the house of cards is going to fall.






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Powerman
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Well if we default, people aren't going to keep lending us money.

And obviously it isn't infinite. It's just a big number.






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GumboPot
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Bloomberg actually nailed it.

Sickening isn't it?






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CarrolltonTiger
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so where is he wrong?


Because at some point in time your money gets devalued to pay off your foreign debt.

You aren't as special as you think you are.






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Rohan2Reed
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he makes one major assumption...that people will continue to buy our debt.


by "people" do you mean the Fed?






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Antonio Moss
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Well if we default, people aren't going to keep lending us money.


And, what most people don't understand is that private individuals hold most of the U.S. debt. When that default occurs it's going to be worse than just a foreign entity cutting off the pipeline; it's going to cause a lot of people to lose investments.






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GumboPot
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Assuming there is some mythical point where lenders stop caring about getting their money back.


Where is that point? When will the FR stop printing to buy federal debt? When will other central banks stop printing to buy federal debt?






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Hasnt our Credit rating already falling? There is a limit, dont know it,but its there.





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That is one way of defaulting... printing money.

This is what is going to happen to the United States.

They aren't just going to straight-up default. People will keep buying our debt, and they get paid back with increasingly worthless dollars.

Inflation will run rampant and the U.S. will "default" through a devalued dollar.






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You got Prime time, at some point inflation is going thru the roof.


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boosiebadazz
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You aren't as special as you think you are.


what?






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Layabout
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And obviously it isn't infinite. It's just a big number.

It's a very big number indeed and we're not at all close to exceeding it.

Thank god someone finally called bull shite on the country's problems being analagous to a household budget.






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CarrolltonTiger
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what?


That people will continue to lend you money you have no future ability to pay and there will be no consequences.






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boosiebadazz
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oh, i thought you meant me personally. i was like wtf

i agree that there is a limit

i just dont think we're close to it

we're still the most stable country in the world.






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Hasnt our Credit rating already been down graded?





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ironsides
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No - bloomberg does have it right. What's wrong is that a man that has made his entire career in the financial media industry and computerized financial analysis tools is that doing what he is talking about has gigantic consequences.

What happens when the banks go out of business because they didn't collect the payments they thought they were getting?






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