something backloaded with a fair signing bonus. one that has an option to cancel if he doesn't pan out after 2 years. the numbers are irrelivant, because contracts are much more complicated than just a per year figure. to go along with your question though, I'd say a 3mill signing bonus for 5 yrs, with the first two years being in the 800K range and the 3-5 years in the 2mill range with a 3 mill roster bonus after year 2, which allows the team to evaluate and decide if they will retain him for those last three years or not.

these are just numbers off the top of my head, and my point is that these numbers mean nothing. i don't know what the going rate for an OLB in his situation is, but the organization and his agent do. they will work it out and get it done. he may have an inflated sense of worth, but what player doesn't? if he is asking for 5 mill/year and refuses anything less, then he is insane and will be gone. however, we have no clue what numbers are being thrown around, so this vitriol towards him is misplaced

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Posted by landrywasbeast30

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Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:29 pm to Midget Death Squad

I'm glad some of you got to enjoy the debating style of monroesaintsfan like I have a few times lol. Evidence was offered that actually showed Junior was thought of as a situational 4-3 pass rusher, 3-4 OLB, just like every other player that gets switched to 3-4 OLB. Everything the guy said was proved to be wrong, but he will just keep going.

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Posted by Mr. Wayne

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Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:40 pm to Midget Death Squad

You are right. I see where I misinterpreted what they were saying. His speed is right in line with Aldon Smith and James Harrison. It seems it would be his ideal position, now we just have to sign him at a good rate.

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Posted by moneyg

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Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:55 pm to Midget Death Squad

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something backloaded with a fair signing bonus. one that has an option to cancel if he doesn't pan out after 2 years. the numbers are irrelivant, because contracts are much more complicated than just a per year figure. to go along with your question though, I'd say a 3mill signing bonus for 5 yrs, with the first two years being in the 800K range and the 3-5 years in the 2mill range with a 3 mill roster bonus after year 2, which allows the team to evaluate and decide if they will retain him for those last three years or not.

Based on those numbers, you are likely arguing with people that agree with you. It is a lot more likely that the Saints offer is in that neighborhood and that Galette considers it a lowball offer than vice versa.

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he may have an inflated sense of worth, but what player doesn't? if he is asking for 5 mill/year and refuses anything less, then he is insane and will be gone.

Again, you are arguing with people who have effectively said the same thing.

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Posted by monroesaintsfan

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Posted on 3/1/13 at 12:25 pm to landrywasbeast30

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Everything the guy said was proved to be wrong,

You don't even get what me and the other guy were debating, Goober.

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Junior was thought of as a situational 4-3 pass rusher, 3-4 OLB,

By stating this, you are actually agreeing with me in my argument with the other guy.

What he and I were debating was a 2010 NFL.com scouting report on Galette.LINK The report never discusses anything but his ability to play either a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 OLB in the analysis and strengths sections. In the weaknesses section, although scheme terms for neither DE or OLB were used, he contends they were suddenly discussing his problems with being used as a 4-3 OLB.

The other guy, to support his argument, contended that by them referring to him as a "tweener", they were now talking about 4-3 OLB's. Going by his argument, a 3-4 OLB is assumed to be a "tweener" who is not strong enough for 4-3 DE or fast enough for 4-3 OLB, instead of one of the most heavily sought positions in all of football. My contention is that they were referring to him as "tweener" in that they didn't feel he was strong enough for 4-3 DE or fast enough for 3-4 OLB. Even though they brag about his burst in the strengths section, burst and speed don't necessarily equate. Whether you disagree with the report is unrelated to the argument he and I were having. I actually disagree with the speed comment myself.

But as you yourself stated, how many people ever considered Galette as a 4-3 OLB in the NFL, much less debated his pros and cons at that position.

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