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Re-evaluating the 1980s Best Picture winners

Posted on 2/15/13 at 11:30 am
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 11:30 am
The Best Picture thread inspired me to look at the 1980s, a decade renowned for being the low point in the Academy Awards. I’m going to try and re-issue the Oscars, using the same criteria that the Academy uses. So I’m not going to give it to a comedy or foreign film… just give the Oscars the benefit of hindsight. I’m trying to keep the Oscars as the conservative institution they are, but still honor great movies that people actually, you know, like now.

I present the Balooscars of the 1980s.

1980
WINNER: Ordinary People
NOMINEES: Coal Miner's Daughter, The Elephant Man, Raging Bull, Tess
NEW WINNER: Raging Bull
NEW NOMINEES: Coal Miner's Daughter, The Elephant Man, Ordinary People, The Shining

Honestly, not that bad. We all agree Raging Bull not winning is one of the great travesties of Oscar history, but all of the nominees were justifiable and you can at least see how Ordinary People won.Still, it’s Raging f’n Bull.

1981
WINNER: Chariots of Fire
NOMINEES: Atlantic City, On Golden Pond, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Reds
NEW WINNER: Gallipoli
NOMINEES: On Golden Pond, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Reds, Das Boot

Look, there’s no way the Academy was ever giving an Oscar to Raiders of the Lost Ark, and I can’t bring myself to say, even with hindsight, they would do it. We can agree Chariots of Fire is a bad winner, which means given a second chance, they’d likely give the award to a bunch of legends taking a victory lap in On Golden Pond or just give Warren Beatty more honors for Reds. Neither of those options are real appealing to me, so I went off the board and nominated two of the greatest war movies ever made, Gallipoli and Das Boot. Now, there’s no way Das Boot wins, though it should, so I’ll give the retroactive Balooscar to Gallipoli because it’s by Peter Weir and was a better WWI movie than Chariots of Fire.

1982
WINNER: Gandhi
NOMINEES: E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, Missing, Tootsie, The Verdict
NEW WINNER: E.T.
NOMINEES: Gandhi, The Verdict, The Thing, Blade Runner

Actually, I think all of the choices they made are pretty damn defensible. Missing is a great, if forgotten, movie. Tootsie is fun and The Verdict is Paul Newman’s last stand as a legit leading man. Even Gandhi is a defensible Best Picture winner, even if it is like watching paint dry. Biopics do well in the Academy. But this was possibly the greatest year in sci fi history. I hate Blade Runner, but it is perhaps the most influential movie on set design of my lifetime. And a showdown between the good and bad aliens would have been great. Eventually, E.T. wins out because it is the greatest family film ever made, and the Academy used to honor well-made family movies. Then again, Hollywood used to make well-made family movies.

1983
WINNER: Terms of Endearment
NOMINEES: The Big Chill, The Dresser, The Right Stuff, Tender Mercies
NEW WINNER: The Right Stuff
NEW NOMINEES: Silkwood, Rumble Fish, Danton. King of Comedy

What a disastrous year for movies. The Best Picture winner sucked, as did most of the nominees. Return of the Jedi isn’t as good as you remember, and while people now hype up Scarface, let’s not lose sight of the fact most of that movie is an incoherent mess. Coppola put out his last two good movies: Rumble Fish and The Outsiders, though neither is truly great. The Big Chill is the gold standard for Boomer Nostalgia, perhaps the worst disease infecting pop culture for the past 30 years. Just give the award to some astronauts and never speak of this year again. It’s so bad, I nominated a Gerard Depardieu film, though at least it’s about the French Revolution.

1984
WINNER: Amadeus
NOMINEES: The Killing Fields, A Passage to India, Places in the Heart, A Soldier's Story
NEW WINNER: Once Upon a Time in America
NEW NOMINEES: Amadeus, The Killing Fields, Blood Simple, Ghostbusters

While Kubrick gets the nod as the most screwed over director by the Academy, what about Sergio Leone? 1984 was actually a pretty great year for movies, as I’ve left The Terminator off because Amadeus was a memorable biopic if overrated and The Killing Fields is downright harrowing. Blood Simple almost single handedly invented independent film (it won Sundance, though it wasn’t called Sundance yet). But geez… it’s only Leone’s masterpiece on American crime. It’s arguably better than The Godafther, people. Yet the Academy nominated forgettable trifles like Places in the Heart and the interminable Passage to India.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 11:31 am to
1985
WINNER: Out of Africa
NOMINEES: The Color Purple, Kiss of the Spider Woman, Prizzi's Honor, Witness
NEW WINNER: The Color Purple
NEW NOMINEES: Out of Africa, Kiss of the Spider Woman, Ran, Brazil

At least the Oscars finally realized there were movies outside Hollywood. Kiss of the Spider Woman is a bit of a gutsy choice back then, and showed that the Academy at least understood something was happening, but they didn’t quite understand it yet. Of course, they gave the Award to one of the stodgiest films ever made, all so they didn’t have to give Best Picture to a film about black people. We can finally honor the uneven Color Purple, as the kind of safe choice the Academy likes and can pat itself on the back for being so progressive. The two best movies of the year, of course, are Ran and Brazil, which now at least get invites. While they won’t even give a Balooscar to Terry Gilliam, the failure to honor Akire Kurosawa’s last great film is truly baffling. Even at the time people kind of knew it was his last great film. I was this close to giving it the win, violating my no foreign films rule. Out of Africa still gets a courtesy nomination for being the Platonic ideal of Oscar Bait, squeezing out Back to the Future. I know, I’m an a-hole.

1986
WINNER: Platoon
NOMINEES: Children of a Lesser God, Hannah and Her Sisters, The Mission, A Room with a View
NEW WINNER: Platoon
NEW NOMINEES: Blue Velvet, The Fly, The Name of the Rose, Hoosiers

Holy crap. What an awesome year. So awesome, not even the Oscars could screw it up. Honestly, every one of the actual nominees is a decent choice, if a little conservative. I just wanted to demonstrate you could literally replace every single one of them and still have a bumper crop. And that’s leaving Salvador, Stand by Me, Top Gun, Aliens, and Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer off. Blue Velvet has a serious case and any other year, I’d give it the Balooscar, but come on… Platoon. Oh, and I’d right a historic wrong and give The mission the cinematography Oscar it so clearly deserved. The most beautiful film ever shot.

1987
WINNER: The Last Emperor
NOMINEES: Broadcast News, Fatal Attraction, Hope and Glory, Moonstruck
NEW WINNER: The Last Emperor
NEW NOMINEES: Wings of Desire, The Untouchables, Empire of the Sun, Princess Bride

I love The Last Emperor, but I also think Bertolucci is an insane genius. He’s not Werner Herzog levels of crazy, but he’s close. And this is his masterpiece. That said, another great year for movies with some real boring nominees, only these are a lot less justifiable. Fatal attraction is one of those movies you can’t believe was ever taken seriously, Broadcast News is The Newsroom before we invented snark, Hope and Glory is a nice little British film I quite enjoy, and Moonstruck was a beloved comedy that hasn’t aged all that well. I’ve replaced them with one of the greatest foreign films ever made, a fun gangster period piece, Spielberg’s discovery of Christian Bale, and the most beloved movie maybe ever. And that’s leaving off the great films of Robocop, Lethal Weapon, Wall Street, Raising Arizona, Angel Heart, Good Morning Vietnam, House of Games, and screw it… Evil Dead II. I kept some sense of decorum in my nominees.

1988
WINNER: Rain Man
NOMINEES: The Accidental Tourist, Dangerous Liaisons, Mississippi Burning, Working Girl
NEW WINNER: The Last Temptation of Christ
NEW NOMINEES: Big, A Fish Called Wanda, Cinema Paradiso, Die Hard

Can we finally admit Rain Man is a flaming pile of shite? The only redeeming quality of the movie is that it inspired the “never go full retard” line. What’s even worse is that it’s not the worst Best Picture winner of the 80s. I admit that that this group of nominees would never fly, as there is only one “serious” English language film in the group, which tips the hand of who is going to win. Feel free to sub in either Dangerous Liaisons or Mississippi Burning in for Die Hard or Big. Those are the kind of movies which win, even though they aren’t as good. A Fish Called Wanda is perhaps the greatest comedy ever made, so it gets a nomination, but I still can’t believe the Academy overlooked Scorcese’s remarkable rumination on faith. I’m coming off as the biggest Dafoe fan in the world, which isn’t too far from the truth, but he carried this movie and aside from the silly controversy by people who never saw it, this is an amazing film which honestly promotes faith. The Last Temptation of Christ is Scorcese’s best film of the 80s. Yes, even over Raging Bull. It should have won.

1989
WINNER: Driving Miss Daisy
NOMINEES: Born on the Fourth of July, Dead Poets Society, Field of Dreams, My Left Foot
NEW WINNER: Do the Right Thing
NEW NOMINEES: Glory, sex lies and videotape, The Little Mermaid, Drugstore Cowboy

Yeah, that happened. You could literally pick a film at random and have a pretty good shot at naming a better movie than Driving Miss Daisy, easily the worst Best Picture winner of my lifetime. Yes, even worse than Crash. The nominees weren’t all that strong either. I mean, my house gets all dusty during Field of Dreams, too, but it’s not THAT great of a movie. Meanwhile, Spike Lee made a movie so incendiary, it is still controversial for the right reasons today. It’s a movie so good, it’s convinced us that Spike Lee’s 1990s output wasn’t terrible. The Little Mermaid is the rock upon which Disney rebuilt its empire and sex, lies, and videotape is the moment indie film reached the mainstream. It was a pretty strong year for movies, which the Oscars failed to notice. The Balooscars did notice.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 11:40 am to
Great thread.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 11:43 am to
A solid re-evaluation. I'm glad you decided to award your Balooscar to The Right Stuff in 1983. An oft-forgotten film that really captures the adventurous spirit of America in the 50s and 60s.

Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 11:44 am to
I don't agree necessarily with everything you said but great job.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 11:48 am to
Well, tell me where you disagree. I'm trying to spark some discussion here!
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 11:56 am to
will do, just working/driving right now
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 11:57 am to
Good list, we could this for every decade

I think Prizzi's Honor does not get enough credit and gets my vote for 85, so i think that should stay. Nicholson and Turner are good, but William Hickey, William Randolph, Robert Loggia and of course Angelica Huston steal the show. This also has one of my favorite, not for mixed company movie lines of all time.

I also disagree about Moonstuck, I think it's held up fine. The supporting characters are great here too, I love the scene with Olympia Dukakis and the Dad from Fraser who's name is escaping me. Vincent Gardenia is also great,
This post was edited on 2/15/13 at 12:02 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 12:00 pm to
Would you consider doing the 90s and 2000s later?
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 12:08 pm to
Awesome job, I wonder why the Shining didn't get nominated?
Posted by swamie
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 12:09 pm to
I've never seen Glory, but you didn't think Dead Poets Society deserved a Balooscar nomination?
This post was edited on 2/15/13 at 12:11 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Awesome job, I wonder why the Shining didn't get nominated?


because it's awful
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 12:11 pm to
Here's my first ballot:

1980:RAGING BULL
1981: GALLIPOLI (but it's a foreign film isn't it...) run like a leopard
1982: ET ? Are you kidding ? The winner is TOOTSIE ! Or at lest SOPHIE'S CHOICE.The Year of Living Dangerously ? ET ? Huh ?
1983: THE RIGHT STUFF !
1984: ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA (long cut). (I like your style)
1985: MASK. (this was a lousy year for "serious" film).
1986: PLATOON. THE MISSION was powerful stuff though.
1987 : THE LAST EMPEROR narrowly takes out HOPE AND GLORY. I love them both.
1988 : A FISH CALLED WANDA.
1989: Do The Right Thing is mediocre racial street theatre. I guess GLORY, although Matthew Broderick was lousy casting, imho. Actually I think I liked DEAD CALM or FAREWELL TO THE KING or SCANDAL better than either of those.
Posted by Zamoro10
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 12:13 pm to
Definitely believe The Right Stuff should have won...not only is it a great movie...but it's an Oscar epic. That loss to me is more shocking than Raging Bull.

Despite what anyone says I still believe Chariots of Fire is a fantastic movie and the rightfull choice that year. One of my favorites of the 80's. It was mostly historical, inspiring and poetic - with a great score to boot.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 12:16 pm to
Chariots of Fire WAS a great film indeed for all the reasons you mentioned. I can't imagine it being made today.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

I've never seen Glory, but you didn't think Dead Poets Society deserved a Balooscar nomination?


Glory would be my personal win for 1989. The greatest Civil War film ever made up to this point. And before anyone asks, I don't consider Gone With the Wind to be a Civil War film.
Posted by Baloo
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

I think Prizzi's Honor does not get enough credit and gets my vote for 85, so i think that should stay.

that hurt to squeeze out. Ran and Brazil were must-nominates in my eyes, and I was giving Color Purple the win. That left only two slots, one of which taken up by the most Oscar Bait film ever made, Out of Africa. I could have easily put Prizzi's Honor in that slot or Kiss of the Spider Woman. It was a borderline choice, but I do like the film, even if I think it's a bit forgettable.

I like Moonstruck, but its no Princess Bride.
This post was edited on 2/15/13 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 12:23 pm to
The score for Chariots of Fire is still fantastic. No complaints on that score, though I do think its win has a lot to do with how we admire anything British and aristocratic.

Glory, admittedly, was my closest call. I went with Do the Right Thing, but I was very close to taking Glory, which is a great, great movie.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 12:24 pm to
Rain Man won best picture?!

I never knew that. What an embarrassment.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 12:28 pm to
Coal Miner's Daughter has stood the test of time, but I don't have a problem with Ordinary People.

I agree about The Right Stuff. Another one that is still relevant.

Best movie of the decade: Das Boot.
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