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Hugo Stiglitz 
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| Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:33 am)
Anyone disagree with this?
If so, why?
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Drew Orleans 
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:34 am to Hugo Stiglitz)
No, because I'm not a sooper ruhtard.
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:36 am to Hugo Stiglitz)
Completely disagree.
Capitalism is the exploitation of capital by man.
I provide a good or service you want, you provide a good or service in return. We both get what we want.
Who gets exploited?
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:37 am to Hugo Stiglitz)
Read Adam Smith and you will learn why it is not exploitation. There is one of the first lessons on capitlism with workers being hired to do a chore throughout the day, and then being paid at the end of the day that I would suggest looking up for elementary school folk.ETA It is in one of the Gospels.
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:38 am to Hugo Stiglitz)
quote:
Exploitation
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:39 am to Hugo Stiglitz)
Capitalism enables you to own your own business and make your own wealth via your own hard work, but if you're too lazy or disinterested, then it isn't Capitalism's fault, but your own.
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:42 am to Mike da Tigah)
"As a rule, capitalism is blamed for the undesired effects of a policy directed at its elimination" - Ludwig Von Mises
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:45 am to Hugo Stiglitz)
Men exploit men. And it does not matter what political or economic system is in place.
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:45 am to Hugo Stiglitz)
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Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man.
Anyone disagree with this?
I do.
Swap capitalism for "the Free Market", and I agree.
Exploitation is not a negative thing, btw.
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:48 am to Hugo Stiglitz)
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If so, why?
It's just free trade. You allow people to trade their effort for money. Which can then be traded to someone else for goods or service. Otherwise you think we should all be slaves or not participate in a society.
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:56 am to Hugo Stiglitz)
This 'low-information' voter sure don't.
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:56 am to Roaad)
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Swap capitalism for "the Free Market", and I agree.
Explain.
If someone is exploited in a free market system, it is because they allow it. When government interferes with regulation and reduces or eliminates competition, then so does the people's ability to choose and thus they are more apt to be exploited.
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 8:01 am to Hugo Stiglitz)
It doesn't seem the attack on capitalism, is what is being noted here: the exchange of services, relatively free trade, paying for labor, etc.
Capitalism is generally attacked as the ability to use wealth to create wealth, the supposed exploitation of labor, while in fact the accumulation of capital allows for the creation of labor and wealth. The attack is a conflict between the value of labor and wealth in society.
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 8:02 am to Mohican)
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When government interferes with regulation and reduces or eliminates competition, then so does the people's ability to choose and thus they are more apt to be exploited.
Agree. Gov't also interferes by providing subsidies. Our government is completely out of control, picking winners and losers and manipulating the market. Someone posted in a thread earlier a good article from Ron Paul. He explained it best: Corporatism.
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 8:07 am to CptRusty)
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Agree. Gov't also interferes by providing subsidies. Our government is completely out of control, picking winners and losers and manipulating the market. Someone posted in a thread earlier a good article from Ron Paul. He explained it best: Corporatism.
Agreed. I saw that, and that was right to the point. There's a big difference in my opinion in corporatism and capitalism operating in a truly free market, creating monopolies, unfair advantages, and squeezing the free market right out of the equation. If you want to level the playing field, then start with government's interference and greed, kick the lobbyists to the street and clean up Washington, as that's where the heart of the problem is at.
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 8:15 am to Hugo Stiglitz)
capitalism is based in an obsession to serve people, so i don't see how this can be true
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 8:18 am to CarrolltonTiger)
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while in fact the accumulation of capital allows for the creation of labor and wealth
This is what liberals simply refuse to see or are just blind to. I think they understand it but they just wish to ignore it because they don't want to believe that those with more talent or work ethic are WORTH more than those with less of those qualities. Those people also contribute more to society as a whole, benefiting everyone.
So you have an economic thought process on the left that does not care that there is less wealth and a poorer standard of living across the board - the only thing that matters is that what people have is as close to equal as they can get it, and a central authority that controls that equality.
How do they believe the wealth that they wish to redistribute will maintain itself under that philosophy? It simply can't. And everybody suffers as a result.
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 8:19 am to Mohican)
Y'all postin in a troll thread.
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 8:22 am to Mohican)
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they don't want to believe that those with more talent or work ethic are WORTH more than those with less of those qualities
this is part of it. egalitarianism is still a big part of the philosophy and many of them truly do believe that "we're all equal, in some way" (unless you disagree with them, obv).
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How do they believe the wealth that they wish to redistribute will maintain itself under that philosophy?
well when you think that everyone is theoretically equal, you can replace the captains of industry with joe schmoe and things will keep on rolling
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| re: Capitalism is the Exploitation of Man by Man. (Posted on 2/15/13 at 8:23 am to JohnnyKilroy)
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Y'all postin in a troll thread.
the OP was a troll but the discussion is pretty solid. a true troll continues the argument 
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