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Thoughts on tour players using GPS/rangefinder devices?
Posted on 2/14/13 at 9:51 am
Posted on 2/14/13 at 9:51 am
Rand Jarris, Senior Managing Director of the USGA, was on PGA radio talking about discussions they are having about improving and fixing the pace of play issue. One thing he mentioned was that they are doing research on wether or not rangefinders would make a significant difference in shortening the length of a round. He said that if they find that it does, then they are open to allowing pro's to use them in competition.
Im on the fence about it because on one hand I think it would shorten up the time a round takes which is crazy right now. On the other hand, it seems like it takes away some of the strategic aspect of the game. I like the fact that players at that level have to judge their distances and it can make or break that hole and/or round.
Thoughs?
Im on the fence about it because on one hand I think it would shorten up the time a round takes which is crazy right now. On the other hand, it seems like it takes away some of the strategic aspect of the game. I like the fact that players at that level have to judge their distances and it can make or break that hole and/or round.
Thoughs?
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Posted on 2/14/13 at 9:53 am to JOHNN
It wont help pace of play much ... IMHO FWIW
Posted on 2/14/13 at 9:54 am to JOHNN
I'd rather they just get more aggressive about putting guys on the clock and fine them if they're pulling a Ben Crane.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 9:54 am to JOHNN
I think they should study their yardages the night before. Know them when they walk on the course, instead of relying on their caddy.
Then practice playing ready golf. Range finders aren't going to speed anything up. What happens when it fricks up? Do they still keep a book on them? Perfect example of entropy.
Then practice playing ready golf. Range finders aren't going to speed anything up. What happens when it fricks up? Do they still keep a book on them? Perfect example of entropy.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 9:57 am to JOHNN
This would be a huge disgrace to the game. Just tell the guys to move their asses. Playing a round of golf in under 5 hours when you're a scratch golfer is not difficult.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 9:59 am to JOHNN
I dont see why it would be a big deal for them to use them. Plus more endorsement deals!
Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:05 am to threeputt
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It wont help pace of play much ... IMHO FWIW
I agree. They'll still need yardage books in order to put the ball in the right place on the green, still have to factor in wind, etc. Caddies walking off yardages isn't what's slowing the game down.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:07 am to JOHNN
I agree with all of the above.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:07 am to KingofthePoint
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Caddies walking off yardages isn't what's slowing the game down
from watching them in person, its reading the putts that takes the most time
Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:08 am to JOHNN
The only time this would really help pace of play would be when guys are so far off line that the caddy has to spend extra time walking off yardage. Pace of play on tour isn't bad because these guys are spending time with yardage issues. Some of their preshot routines are absurd. I don't really care if they get to use rangefinders or not, but I do think the tour needs to enforce pace of play rules better. I would put every player on the clock from the start of every round. If they exceed the time limit once, it's a warning. Every time after that, it's a 1 stroke penalty. Obviously there are logistical issues to this, but it would speed up play.
This post was edited on 2/14/13 at 10:09 am
Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:21 am to medtiger
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I would put every player on the clock from the start of every round. If they exceed the time limit once, it's a warning. Every time after that, it's a 1 stroke penalty.
Have you ever been put on the clock during a tournament? It SUCKS
Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:36 am to medtiger
Wouldnt one person playing over the time limit put everyone behind them over as well?
In my opinion I could possibly see letting the caddie use a laser but it still seems like they would still be using their yardage book. This is turn still probably doesnt improve the pace of play.
In my opinion I could possibly see letting the caddie use a laser but it still seems like they would still be using their yardage book. This is turn still probably doesnt improve the pace of play.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:53 am to ThisWayChad
My group was put on the clock during a Hooters Tour event... that shite is nerve wracking
Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:55 am to HoLeInOnEr05
I am not a regular golfer or big golf fan but I would think part of the game is determining how far you are from the pin without a device.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:58 am to JOHNN
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One thing he mentioned was that they are doing research on wether or not rangefinders would make a significant difference in shortening the length of a round. He said that if they find that it does, then they are open to allowing pro's to use them in competition.
Using rangefinders wouldn't help pace of play at all. The only reason they are allowed for use on mini-tours, local events, etc., is purely because the way local courses are marked is terrible. The books are a lot more advanced than my $400 laser.
The thing that slows up pace of play is that it is normally certain people over and over again. Then when that group gets put on the clock, they speed up, and the group behind them is behind, and it's an overwhelming cycle.
Until they start penalizing shots on tour, it won't matter.
And the way the USGA does it is just as terrible, because it's pretty easy to miss a checkpoint because of one ruling in your group. And the absolutely terrible USGA guys live and die by their checkpoint.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:06 am to JOHNN
I have absolutely no problem with the pros using range finders. They already have yardage books so they are not gaining a competitive edge. The biggest use will not be in the middle of the fairway but for wayward shots. Also around the green. Players and caddies always walking off 35-40 yard shots.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:12 am to dante
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Also around the green. Players and caddies always walking off 35-40 yard shots.
This is going to happen with or without rangefinders
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