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The Mick 
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| What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 7:47 am)
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BarbeTiger 
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:01 am to The Mick)
We gave up the most yards in history and a lot of our players fit a 3-4 more than a 4-3
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Patrick O Rly
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:07 am to The Mick)
Most of the successful defenses in the league run a 3-4 base. It would take a while to overhaul our defense to Spags scheme: smaller quicker linemen, corners who were good at zone coverage.
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infantry1026
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:13 am to The Mick)
Because SP is tired of not being able to find a decent 43 coordinator, and he is tired of the defense holding back the franchise.
-I'm not a Ryan fan (either of them) but he was probably the best fit for this team available.
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The Mick
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:28 am to BarbeTiger)
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lot of our players fit a 3-4 more than a 4-3
Well for starters typically there is a beastly run-stopping nose guard. We dont have anyone that remotely fits that bill imo.
What players do you think fit the 3-4 specifically?
* Im not disagreeing with the switch, just curious why..
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:31 am to The Mick)
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Well for starters typically there is a beastly run-stopping nose guard
true. we need a brick shithouse to clog the middle. we have a port-o-potty.
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USLttarP
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:35 am to The Mick)
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What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4?
We're a dumpster fire of a 4-3
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Brettesaurus Rex
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:47 am to The Mick)
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What players do you think fit the 3-4 specifically?
Dont be lazy and make someone type this out. Theres multiple threads on this.
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Hoodoo Man
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:48 am to The Mick)
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Well for starters typically there is a beastly run-stopping nose guard. We dont have anyone that remotely fits that bill imo.
If you say so.
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The Mick
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:50 am to Hoodoo Man)
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If you say so
So you dont need a good nose guard in a 3-4 (or are you saying we already have one)?
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BarbeTiger
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:53 am to The Mick)
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What players do you think fit the 3-4 specifically?
I'm guessing you don't visit the board often, there has been a thread about this topic almost everyday since the announcement
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Patrick O Rly
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:53 am to The Mick)
It depends on what type of 3-4 you're running. The kind we're running doesn't require that. Ratliff was the NT in Dallas and he was 287 or somewhere around that.
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Hoodoo Man
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:55 am to Patrick O Rly)
Besides, Bunkley has rated out very well in his short time at NT in Denver, I think.
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The Mick
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:55 am to BarbeTiger)
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I'm guessing you don't visit the board often, there has been a thread about this topic almost everyday since the announcement
Yea thanks, I read bretts identical response.
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Patrick O Rly
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:56 am to The Mick)
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What players do you think fit the 3-4 specifically?
Bunkly
Hicks
Jordan
Wilson
Johnson
Walker
Lofton
Hawthorne
Galette
Harper (will actually fit nice in this system)
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The Mick
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:56 am to Patrick O Rly)
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The kind we're running doesn't require that
Can u explain this? (serious question)
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Patrick O Rly
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:59 am to The Mick)
The 3-4 we're running is one gap (I think; I forget the difference between one gap and two gap) and ask the down linemen to penatrate and be disruptive, not simply hold their blocks to let the linebackers roam free. If it was the latter, we'd need a big fat guy in the middle.
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baytiger
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 9:22 am to The Mick)
I think he took the year off to objectively look at the state of the NFL, and in the process he decided that the 3-4 would work better for us.
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Chad504boy
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 9:23 am to baytiger)
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I think he took the year off to objectively look at the state of the NFL
I'm pretty sure he took the year off to bang blondes in the bahamas.
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baytiger
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| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 9:28 am to Chad504boy)
Can't one do both?
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