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re: Movie / TV Board Color Scheme Discussion

Posted on 2/5/13 at 7:36 am to
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 7:36 am to
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Ughhh... Enough with this man. I see, at best, maybe a couple of people that "cheered" but I see a lot more posters basically saying "screw you guys I'm going home". Who cares and why does it matter who posted in what thread?

Look. You're a good poster here and all but you really need to get over yourself. If you were this passionate about GF's logo winning, maybe you should've been rah-rah'ing a little more to get some votes for it.

You and the posters with the top 10% of posts on the m/tv board don't own this place Freaux. I don't care if you continue to participate but if you can't handle not getting your way, maybe you should take a break from all of this huh?

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Control Cop

Very fitting name.

If this logo was voted on and won, then I get that, and agree that it's relatively fair. However, I feel like I can still voice my opinion on things, since that's what this board is for. I think the logo looks completely stupid. I think it's one of those ideas that sounds good (Hollywood sign...cool), but looks terrible in practice. I actually stayed away from a lot of the process, so I'm not sure how it ended up coming down to just those two choices, but I did vote for the logo I liked more (or hated less). Also, I wasn't crazy about either one of them, but if those were the only chouces I had to pick one...and before you say "Come up with your own design then, a-hole.." well, I actually did (as a joke). But I'm not creative like that anyway...I can throw out ideas, but can't create solid logos like GF or stout can.

As for the color, I still like the red. It stands out from the other boards and I'm used to it to the point that I like it. IF we have to change colors (which we don't), then I'd vote to a more black and white kind of scheme (maybe dark gray even). Also, I think if this logo gets installed, a dark background looks better...as much as I hate the "sign" logo, I think it looks much better without being able to see the supports (and only seeing the actual letters).

Hopefully, Chicken will hate the logo anyway and he will refuse to install it. :fingerscrossed:
Posted by stout
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 7:52 am to
If Chicken put up the Outdoor Board logo I don't think his standards for board logos are terribly high. That thing is horrible.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 7:59 am to
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Ughhh... Enough with this man. I see, at best, maybe a couple of people that "cheered" but I see a lot more posters basically saying "screw you guys I'm going home". Who cares and why does it matter who posted in what thread?



Because the entire thing was kind of hijacked from that thread.

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Look. You're a good poster here and all but you really need to get over yourself. If you were this passionate about GF's logo winning, maybe you should've been rah-rah'ing a little more to get some votes for it.


So I shouldn't complain but I should "Mila Kunis," this thing in? Yeah that's a good idea. Unlike the people who "strongly urged," Godfather to change his idea and process, that's just not a cool thing to do.

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You and the posters with the top 10% of posts on the m/tv board don't own this place Freaux.


When did I ever say we did?

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I don't care if you continue to participate but if you can't handle not getting your way, maybe you should take a break from all of this huh?



It's not about "getting my way." Again, you don't realize that we put a kabosh on this process at two other points, both because the threads got out of hand. The logo that "won" was also that one I really liked (Reel and Popcorn). But it wasn't a clean process, scratch it and start over.




You should also check out the original thread and look at my reaction there, you'd realize this has nothing to do with "what" won, but how it all went down.


Edit: I'll also admit I'm overreacting. It's a vote it won, that's fine. It just sucks that it won the way it did.
This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 8:04 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:06 am to
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If Chicken put up the Outdoor Board logo I don't think his standards for board logos are terribly high. That thing is horrible.

Good point...I forgot about that atrocity. frick.

There's still hope I guess.

And I'm not even hating on the effort that went into the logo...whoever made it (GF I assume?) did a good job with it, I just think the idea of the Hollywood sign lettering sounded better than the execution.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:07 am to
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It just sucks that it won the way it did.




In a fair thread where people voted for it?

It's won the vote in every vote thread it's been put in against the other logo.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:09 am to
This has become our very own TD soap opera.

Could we get the Hollywood logo with flames coming off it to represent the logo debate burning this place to the ground?
This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 8:12 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:12 am to
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It's won the vote in every vote thread it's been put in against the other logo.

Every thread?

I thought there was the one ("official") voting thread?
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:12 am to
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Very fitting name


You're definitely not wrong, but come on...


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However, I feel like I can still voice my opinion on things, since that's what this board is for. I think the logo looks completely stupid.


I was hoping noone would go this route. I'm specifically addressing Freaux and he's obviously getting into whining/tantrum territory at this point. Of course he is free to voice his displeasure as much as he likes but I can also call him out on his behavior.



Posted by stout
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:13 am to
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And I'm not even hating on the effort that went into the logo...whoever made it (GF I assume?) did a good job with it, I just think the idea of the Hollywood sign lettering sounded better than the execution.



I made it. No big deal. Some people love it and others hate it. I don't care if the whole process is scrapped at this point because it will never be a majority agreement either way. Maybe we shouldn't move on until it's where one logo doesn't just squeek by but curshes everything else. I don't know.

FWIW I think the movie real logo is too bland and poorly executed as well. Nothing against GFs work as that's just my opinion. The drop shadow he added made it look worse than it already did.

Everyone has an opinion one way or the other.
This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 8:14 am
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:15 am to
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In a fair thread where people voted for it?

It's won the vote in every vote thread it's been put in against the other logo.



Yes, a single fair thread it won sure. No question. But it wasn't a clean vote until that thread.

It also didn't "win," in the first voting thread. It had 53, the Reel had 51, the reel and the popcorn had 1, and the other reel had like 3.

People preferred the reel, the votes were just split. But we couldn't decide if we were voting for exact color scheme, logo attributes, etc. It was all a mess.

Posted by stout
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:16 am to
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It also didn't "win," in the first voting thread. It had 53, the Reel had 51, the reel and the popcorn had 1, and the other reel had like 3.

People preferred the reel, the votes were just split.


Then it still won...right? Those other votes could have gone either way too.

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But we couldn't decide if we were voting for exact color scheme, logo attributes, etc. It was all a mess.


Agreed it was a mess.

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People preferred the reel,


After 3 vote threads I would say obviously not.
This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 8:18 am
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:16 am to
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It was all a mess.


was?
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:20 am to
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Because the entire thing was kind of hijacked from that thread


I still don't understand what you're talking about here or why it matters. I wasn't a part of that thread so maybe that's why. This just doesn't seem like it should be this complicated.

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So I shouldn't complain


You can complain and if you want to continue bitching, by all means, go for it but I never took you for that kind of poster. I still don't actually. This logo thing just seem's to have hit a sore spot for you.


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When did I ever say we did?


Come on man.. You have heavily implied it with the repeated comments about "flyby lurkers" and regular posters and whatnot.

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The logo that "won" was also that one I really liked (Reel and Popcorn). But it wasn't a clean process, scratch it and start over.


I guess this is where my disconnect is coming from. I wasn't aware any logo had won before and I thought B.A.'s thread was extremely clean and approved by the logo makers themselves.

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Edit: I'll also admit I'm overreacting. It's a vote it won, that's fine. It just sucks that it won the way it did.


Thataboy Freaux
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:21 am to
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I made it. No big deal. Some people love it and others hate it. I don't care if the whole process is scrapped at this point because it will never be a majority agreement either way. Maybe we shouldn't move on until it's where one logo doesn't just squeek by but curshes everything else. I don't know.


This was the decision we made last time, and the "winners," said the same thing. it wasn't clear enough, we shouldn't go with it. The Movie Board had too much drama over it, blah blah.

That's all my "Just squash this.." comment was motioning towards.

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FWIW I think the movie real logo is too bland and poorly executed as well. Nothing against GFs work as that's just my opinion. The drop shadow he added made it look worse than it already did.

Everyone has an opinion one way or the other.


Exactly. And I actually really like the Hollywood sign logo in theory, and would love it on some sort of better designed page, but it's too cramped at the top, it doesn't look right.

I'm just soured by the situation again.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:28 am to
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I wasn't a part of that thread so maybe that's why.


There were maybe 6-8 people regularly contributing to that thread.

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You can complain and if you want to continue bitching, by all means, go for it but I never took you for that kind of poster. I still don't actually. This logo thing just seem's to have hit a sore spot for you.


Because we haven't been the kind of board that strong arms things. Mila Kunis, fine. I can just get into meaningless arguments over that one, that was dun.

This is a little different, and yes a sore spot. I'm possibly just recognizing a missed opportunity.

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Come on man.. You have heavily implied it with the repeated comments about "flyby lurkers" and regular posters and whatnot.


That's just overreaction. My bad.

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I guess this is where my disconnect is coming from. I wasn't aware any logo had won before and I thought B.A.'s thread was extremely clean and approved by the logo makers themselves.


We did this LAST YEAR (or maybe even the year before). We had a logo that won a vote, including a Reel, a Tub of Popcorn and one other feature. It wss a long, complicated process. I don't think we were considering the color change then. There were 10s of designs thrown out there, not just two, but it was a jagged mess of 4 threads, like 7 weeks of debate.

When we finally got down to a vote, the reel and popcorn won by a small margin over a few other designs, but no one really liked the process so we just let it go. I think we made a weak attempt to get it changed, but no one felt good doing it.

That's what the board, generally does.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:31 am to
Ok, this afternoon I'm going to work with Stout and we are going to come up with 2 - 3 good color schemes for this logo, we are then going to have 1 final vote, with the new colors, and just because of the discussion in this thread, I am going to add 1 category to that thread that will make the old timers happy:

"KEEP IT THE SAME IT IS NOW"

ok?

If the vote is within 5%, I will have some decisions to make, but we shall see, ok? Everyone ok with this idea?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:34 am to
I will say that I highly doubt if the logo you were for this time barley won as mine did that you would be so willing to scrap it as you are now.

What you liked didn't win so you are using what happened in the past as an excuse to make it look like you compromised in the past and now so should everyone else when in reality it's an effort to not get the logo changed to the one that won due to you not liking it.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:56 am to
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I made it. No big deal.

shite, my bad. That explains your defense of it a little though.

And since it was you, I'll reiterate that you did as good a job on it as anyone could've, I just think the idea was bad.
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FWIW I think the movie real logo is too bland and poorly executed as well. Nothing against GFs work as that's just my opinion. The drop shadow he added made it look worse than it already did.

I agree with that completely...I like the movie reel, but not in the "finished" logo as much as some of the other ones that were thrown around in one of the original threads.
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Maybe we shouldn't move on until it's where one logo doesn't just squeek by but curshes everything else.

I actually think that's a good idea. Not sure if others would agree though (I doubt Control Cop would, for example).

Either way, I'll still post here whether it's a log I love or one that I loathe. But I would like to get a clean/sharp looking one if possible...meaning nothing like the Outdoor Board one.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:58 am to
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I will say that I highly doubt if the logo you were for this time barley won as mine did that you would be so willing to scrap it as you are now.


Na, I would have said the same thing...

"Just squash this process it has been a mess."

We should have done a 2/3s from the beginning. We tried that last time as well, that got no play because no one thought a logo could get that much. And that was sort of the point.

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What you liked didn't win so you are using what happened in the past as an excuse to make it look like you compromised in the past and now so should everyone else when in reality it's an effort to not get the logo changed to the one that won due to you not liking it.


Yes because my post history and attitude totally reflect that.

It's not a compromise, it's an admission that the whole idea spun out of control and any outcome is sort of tainted by that.

Go back and read my Godfather review when it won top movie 4 years ago if you want to read my reaction to something I was passionately against wins.
This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 9:22 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 9:00 am to
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I was hoping noone would go this route. I'm specifically addressing Freaux and he's obviously getting into whining/tantrum territory at this point. Of course he is free to voice his displeasure as much as he likes but I can also call him out on his behavior.

And that's fine. But I don't think he's "behaving" poorly or whining at all. It seems to me like he's pretty level-headedly explaining that his problem is with the process more than the results. He even says that he had a problem with the process previously when a logo that he liked/voted for had won, so that certainly doesn't feel like whining, at least to me. Who knows...and you're free to call him out, as I'm free to call you out, as whomever else is free to call me out, etc. *Irish accent..It's a vicious cycle.
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