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Kashonly
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Assault Weapons or High-Capacity Magazines yeilds 123% more victims


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Mayors Against Illegal Guns conducted a comprehensive analysis of every mass shooting
between January 2009 and January 2013 that was identifiable through FBI data and media
reports. This report describes the 43 mass shootings—nearly one per month—that occurred
in 25 states
in the four-year period. Each description includes the location of the shooting,
number of people killed and/or injured, and information on the shooter, guns, ammunition, and
gun purchase where available.
For purposes of tracking crime data, the FBI defines “mass shooting” as any incident where at
least four people were murdered with a gun.



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Role of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines: Assault weapons or high-capacity
magazines were used in at least 12 of the incidents (28%). These incidents resulted in an
average of 15.6 total people shot123% more people shot than in other incidents (7.0) and
8.3 deaths — 54% more deaths than in other incidents (5.4).


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nearly a third of mass shootings involved these "questionable" guns that led to an average of 15.6 people being shot which is 123% more than if a mass shooter wasn't using "questionable" guns, which yielded 54% more deaths than other mass shootings.

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Tiguar
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re: Assault Weapons or High-Capacity Magazines yeilds 123% more victims


While I am not necessarily refuting this analysis, I am just pointing out this was conducted by a group of individuals with an agenda. At least they were honest about it.

The FBI already came out and said that the AWB had no effect on gun violence and I will take their word over "Mayors Against Illegal Guns".

I wonder why that specific time period was chosen.






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bayoudude
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Problem is that mass shooting account for such a small percentage of gun violence. Out of that you cite 28% usage of scary guns with big magazines so the probability gets even smaller. You can make any statistic look the way you want when your sample is hand picked.





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tigeraddict
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what do they constitute as high capacity? 7 rounds 10 rounds 30 rounds?

how many fewer rounds would of been fired if they had to change magazines?

the mayors analysis is not worth the paper its printed on, because no true conclusions can be derived from the study other then to point out their pre-determined results







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dante
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This is a violence issue not a gun issue. If a person decides to shoot someone does it really matter if the gun holds 6 bullets or 30? Granted the likely hood of killing someone versus harming is much greater with a 30 round magazine. Shouldn't the question be....what can we as a society do to prevent violence? Taking away "certain" guns is not going to prevent shootings.





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BBONDS25
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What did they consider an assault weapon? What did they consider a mass shooting?

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Mayors Against Illegal Guns conducted a comprehensive analysis


Seems like they may have an agenda.



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Papercutninja
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I've seen it posted on all the boards at one point, but I'll repeat it.

Statistics are like bikinis, what they show is interesting but what they hide is vital.

Feel free to give credit for the genius that coined this phrase as it escapes me now.






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dante
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Statistics are like bikinis, what they show is interesting but what they hide is vital

Never heard that before....great.






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Kashonly
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Great? No substance saying....is everything american idol now





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Kashonly
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Bbonds....4 people shot or more

what % of guns woulslsld be considerd assault or high capicity?






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WildTchoupitoulas
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re: Assault Weapons or High-Capacity Magazines yeilds 123% more victims


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Mayors Against Illegal Guns conducted a comprehensive analysis of every mass shooting
between January 2009 and January 2013...Assault weapons or high-capacity
magazines were used in at least 12 of the incidents (28%). These incidents resulted in an
average of 15.6 total people shot

And in that same time frame, 2009-2013, 750 murders were committed in New Orleans alone, mostly by gunshot, the vast majority of which not likely to be semi-automatic rifles.

There's the gnat everyone seems to be swatting at - and then there's the elephant in the room.






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Rickety Cricket
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Mayors Against Illegal Guns

Is anyone actually in favor of illegal guns?






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dante
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Great? No substance saying....is everything american idol now

I'm confused by your statement.






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Scrowe
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43 mass shootings over 4 years, with 12 of the incidents having high capacity magazines. That's 12 incidents among 300,000,000 over 4 years having high capacity magazines used. That makes this a prime example of punishing the masses for actions of a few.





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TrueTiger
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Statistics are like bikinis


That's an all time great phrase on statistics.

I also like:

If you torture the statistical data enough, it will tell you anything you want it to.







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mooseknuckle
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re: Assault Weapons or High-Capacity Magazines yeilds 123% more victims


I'd like to see the stats where high capacity magazines were used until spent then reloaded with a separate magazine.

Minuscule numbers I say






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beaverfever
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So three more people were murdered in a situation that accounts for 25 percent of .1 percent of all murders? In others words about 35 people over 4 years. It's tragic all of of those people died but is an attack on our second amendment really warranted over 35 people? That may sound insensitive but we have to put facts over emotion.





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bayoudude
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And in that same time frame, 2009-2013, 750 murders were committed in New Orleans alone, mostly by gunshot, the vast majority of which not likely to be semi-automatic rifles.



And there were 1,836 murders in Chigago from 2009-2012. I would wager that the majority of those were also committed with guns.






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RCDfan1950
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Exactly, K. And that's why a tyrannical government will NEVER be able to subdue a well-armed citizenry.

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Meauxjeaux
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Steve Martin unwittingly reveals stastical chicanery





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