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In a game where they're claiming the defense knew what they were going to do?


Well I don't remember the other interception, but the one returned for a TD was the result of a flutter-ball when Warner got hit, and another a fumble.

Not sure even if the defense knew the exact play being run would have mattered in those situations.






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RollTide1987
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Can someone a little more football savvy than I explain what the heck this means?


Faulk is simply saying they were using plays that NO team had seen all year and the Patriots actually had defensive check downs for them, as if they had seen those types of formations before.

Also...I believe Faulk is referring to the offset-I when he talks about being stationary in the backfield. As far as "creating motioning," I think that means Warner would send a WR in motion who would get as deep as Faulk was in the backfield before the ball was snapped.




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And FWIW I hated those Rams teams so I'm glad they got beat.

Why? Did they run a train on your girlfriend? Did they shun you when you asked them to sign your hat?






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It's possible, just not probable.





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Why? Did they run a train on your girlfriend? Did they shun you when you asked them to sign your hat?

In the early running for most ridiculous post of the day.






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TotesMcGotes
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Well you're leaving out the possibility that someone fumbled and Warner was hit, causing the interception, because guys were in better position to make those plays due to cheating.





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Faulk is simply saying they were using plays that NO team had seen all year and the Patriots actually had defensive check downs for them, as if they had seen those types of formations before.
Couldn't it just be possible that the Pats were just making adjustments on the fly based on the formation they're seeing?

Maybe they just good playcallers on the D that made solid adjustments.






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Couldn't it just be possible that the Pats were just making adjustments on the fly based on the formation they're seeing?


Possible. But I think he could tell when a check is made recognizing something, and when it's just a shift. Urgency, inflection, etc. Sounds legit



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The Pats and Beli weren't punished enough IMO





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texastiger38
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Well you're leaving out the possibility that someone fumbled and Warner was hit, causing the interception, because guys were in better position to make those plays due to cheating.


Wow. So because they were caught filming signals of other teams, with no confirmed filming of said walkthrough before the SB, we can assume that every good play for the Pats was because they were cheating.

A former Patriot, Ted Johnson that goes on sports radio in Houston pretty often has said that there were never any changes to the game plan the day before the SB, which would have to be when the changes would have been made.

ETA: None of this really matters anyway, people will believe what they want to believe. If anything lost the Rams that SB, I would point to the fact that they let Brady drive down the field on them with less than 2 minutes and Vinitari made a FG, without that, its all a moot point.



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Marshall Faulk: Im Real Butthurt About it






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craigbiggio
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Wow. So because they were caught filming signals of other teams, with no confirmed filming of said walkthrough before the SB, we can assume that every good play for the Pats was because they were cheating.

A former Patriot, Ted Johnson that goes on sports radio in Houston pretty often has said that there were never any changes to the game plan the day before the SB, which would have to be when the changes would have been made.



What? We shouldn't consider the possibility that they DID have tape of the Rams walkthrough, but we should definitely take the word of a former Patriots player as truth?






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TotesMcGotes
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I said you were leaving out the possibility. Not that it actually happened.

And again with the Patriots players/staff saying they were innocent. Are they going to admit to anything that would cheapen their SB win?

Do you think OJ is going to find the real killer soon?






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texastiger38
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What? We shouldn't consider the possibility that they DID have tape of the Rams walkthrough, but we should definitely take the word of a former Patriots player as truth?


I'm not saying that, but the guy that was caught doing the taping (Walsh), who was protected, told the NFL that no one did film the Rams Walkthrough.



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wildtigercat93
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And again with the Patriots players/staff saying they were innocent. Are they going to admit to anything that would cheapen their SB win?


Ted Johnson is a bitter man against the Patriots.






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Tiger Ryno
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Belicheck is a lying cheating Scum bag and there is no doubt in my mind he had been filming practice and walk throughs for years...there is no way he only did it once.





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texastiger38
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I said you were leaving out the possibility.


Obviously there is a possibility, but usually QB's getting hit and throwing flutter balls are unusual events that more likely than not, end up in an INT.

Also, I'm not sure that being in position to force a fumble is something that exists, it's just a matter of how well the ball carrier can protect the ball vs. how well the defender can strip him of the ball.

Neither one of these scenarios could result from watching a Walkthrough.






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wildtigercat93
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Belicheck is a lying cheating Scum bag and there is no doubt in my mind he had been filming practice and walk throughs for years...there is no way he only did it once.










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texastiger38
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.there is no way he only did it once.


Thanks for your input.






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TotesMcGotes
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Hypothetically, if you're a defensive player and you know where an offensive player is going to go, don't you think you'd have a better chance of tackling him and attempting to force a fumble than you would if you had no idea what he was going to do?





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