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228Tiger  LSU Fan Harrison County Member since Feb 2012 12063 posts

| Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 7:50 pm)
I guess was just thinking how much our culture has begun to degenerate and at such an astounding pace. Reality shows that encourage risque lifestyles and seeking out temporary pleasure and irresponsibility over fulfillment and personal accountability. A music culture that has become a bad joke--young girls and boys listen to trash that describes how to properly "frick that bitch and leave em" or "pop your pussy" or some guy describing how he shoots up a place at will, etc. And young kids try to emulate this trashy culture--and to despise it is being "hateful". People now would rather get the most "likes" they can out of some "look at me" post than meet a person in real life and make actual, physical friends and meaningful relationships. Our culture has gone to shite. Family values? They have become a joke. Manners? You now get made fun of for having manners because it's "weak" or "weird". I'm sure many will taunt me for venting on this subject, but let me just remind you that I am NOT religious and am a young guy--23 years old. So no, I am not some angry old man or radical christian. I just notice the immaturity and irresponsibility and furthermore the increasing STUPIDITY of Americans. And yeah, i'm fully aware it won't change, and probably will get a lot worse. Just sucks for my children, that's all TL;DR, :walloftext: :CSB: & Not mad, just upset 
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texashorn Member since May 2008 1139 posts

| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 7:57 pm to 228Tiger)
What do you think has caused this? Lack of religion? Diminishing sanctity of life due to abortion and/or violent imagery (movies, etc.)? Liberalism in general? This is not a trick question, I'm genuinely curious as to what a non-religious 23 year old would attribute such dysfunction.
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keakdasneak  LSU Fan Korea Member since Dec 2006 6679 posts

| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:03 pm to 228Tiger)
What do you consider the high point of American culture?
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Lsupimp  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Nov 2003 25279 posts

| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:05 pm to 228Tiger)
Duck. The Idiotarian savages and moral barbarians who are moving culture Forward (!), one Kardashian at a time, like to think they are making AmeriKKKa safe from the "racist, sexist, homophobic" (judgemental) traditions, principles and ideals that have made us the singular worst Nation on Planet Earth. The aforementioned Idiotarians believe the greatest offense is to hold anybody accountable for anything, unless it is to be held accountable for committing a perceived offense against their authority as Guardians of The Culture.
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El Josey Wales  LSU Fan Greater Geismar Member since Nov 2007 19518 posts

| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:05 pm to 228Tiger)
Good post. Hard to pinpoint the problem but Facebook, twitter, and the Internet have greatly contributed to it. All of these things have great uses, but like everything else they have a downside as well. This is coming from a not too religious 34 yr old.
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 73696 posts
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:06 pm to keakdasneak)
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What do you consider the high point of American culture?
1975
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AUsteriskPride  Auburn Fan Hunstville, AL Member since Feb 2011 4965 posts

| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:06 pm to texashorn)
My opinion is an overall lack of personal accountability, which is instilled in children through the public educational system. Couple that with the highest birth rates taking place in the lower socioeconomic factions of our society where the father is absent in many cases, you have a recipe for disaster.
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CarrolltonTiger  LSU Fan New Orleans Member since Aug 2005 44142 posts
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:08 pm to texashorn)
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What do you think has caused this?
Too much leisure time and too much money at the disposal for the cognitively deficient masses, along with the changing economics of entertainment.
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228Tiger  LSU Fan Harrison County Member since Feb 2012 12063 posts

| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:12 pm to texashorn)
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This is not a trick question, I'm genuinely curious as to what a non-religious 23 year old would attribute such dysfunction.
I would say the borderline obsessive consumption of media from youth combined with a more "anything goes" approach in society. Yes, i would attribute a large amount to an increasingly liberal american society. I guess i just value my internal moral system of belief, even though I don't believe in any religion.
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DNaquin  LSU Fan Right here Member since Nov 2011 4018 posts
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:13 pm to 228Tiger)
It all started with the acceptance of the gay community imo. Not being homophobic, just stating my observation.
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 73696 posts
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:16 pm to 228Tiger)
The old "Diversity is our strength" has led the media to worship alternative values which becomes interesting and accepted by the mainstream. Anything mainstream or traditional is hated and devalued.
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AUsteriskPride  Auburn Fan Hunstville, AL Member since Feb 2011 4965 posts

| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:18 pm to 228Tiger)
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I guess i just value my internal moral system of belief, even though I don't believe in any religion.
You're probably a INTP like myself.. It doesn't take religion to construct a value system. Sure, some of the values mimic religious teaching - but that is more or less attributed to natural law. My main issue is the general hatefulness and lack of respect most people show each other. Honor isn't valued enough.
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Tigah in the ATL  LSU Fan Atlanta Member since Feb 2005 21020 posts

| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:18 pm to 228Tiger)
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I just notice the immaturity and irresponsibility and furthermore the increasing STUPIDITY of Americans.
you base this on TV? I really don't think I have ever interacted with a single person who qualifies for a reality show. Average Americans are actually pretty decent people. Oh wait - I did meet the Bachelor who was an airline pilot & he was just a commuter plane pilot doing his job.
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texashorn Member since May 2008 1139 posts

| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:25 pm to 228Tiger)
OP, do you consider yourself simply non-religious or out-and-out atheist? It does seem that instead of the current younger generations being passively non-religious while harboring no resentment toward religion, they are actively atheist and seethe and rebel at religion. Would you agree that many amongst your generation are actively atheist? Am I way off base with this? I would also agree with CarrolltonTiger in the fact that American life today is just too easy. We have tremendous wealth and haven't sacrificed during wartime since at least the Korean War era (it's arguable that we sacrificed during Vietnam or even Korea; there was a draft, but there was no stateside rationing).
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Lsupimp  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Nov 2003 25279 posts

| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:26 pm to CarrolltonTiger)
To stand up for any traditional interpretation of American life is to open oneself to ridicule and insults. Take a relatively innocuous thing like "sagging".It should be self-evident that Cleotis needs to pull his pants up from around his ass. Yet if one says a word to Cleotis, one is called a racist, ridiculed and marginalized, and Cleotis is given a jelly bean for "keepin'it real n shit". Same thing with women having babies once a year, there is no social sanction whatsoever except towards the person who notices. Multiple this out a million times every day and you have contemporary American culture. We are a nation of moral cowards in that we have lost the capacity to "defend" our American culture because we really can't look around and see very much that is worth defending. Even the concept of 'defending" America is seen as de'classe by our self-appointed Cultural Overclass.
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heehaw  LSU Fan Foothills of the Ohio River Member since May 2009 4046 posts

| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:26 pm to 228Tiger)
People said the same about the youth and their loud rock music in the 60's. I'd say most of those kids grew up to be decent people.
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228Tiger  LSU Fan Harrison County Member since Feb 2012 12063 posts

| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:27 pm to Tigah in the ATL)
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Average Americans are actually pretty decent people.
Never said they weren't decent. Doesn't mean that a lot of them aren't stupid in areas of personal accountability, responsibility, and respect both for themselves and others. Or maybe that's just a bunch of crap that isn't necessary in today's world, huh? Yeah, who needs it? 
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SlowFlowPro  Stanford Fan Equality is a circle, not a = Member since Jan 2004 265028 posts
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:28 pm to 228Tiger)
let me just say i read your post while watching a girl in a movie get herself off in a bathroom after her boss just jacked off on her so it's safe to say i'll disagree
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deltaland  Mississippi St. Fan Member since Mar 2011 16023 posts

| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:32 pm to 228Tiger)
I'm 22 years old and agree with everything you just said. It makes me sick to see how this country is today. I guess me wanting to wear a button down shirt, tucked in, saying yes sir and yes ma'am and wanting to work for a living, while enjoying shows such as Duck Dynasty instead of shite like honey booboo, and listening to country and classic rock instead of ghetto rap just makes me weird. Oh well, I'll just continue to laugh at the idiots.
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228Tiger  LSU Fan Harrison County Member since Feb 2012 12063 posts

| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:33 pm to texashorn)
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OP, do you consider yourself simply non-religious or out-and-out atheist?
Non-religious. I don't seek out conflict like some i know, but i just respectfully am not interested in religion.
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It does seem that instead of the current younger generations being passively non-religious while harboring no resentment toward religion, they are actively atheist and seethe and rebel at religion.
I don't know..a lot are this way but there are also a lot that try to balance--try to keep one foot in the church while having their fun at the same time. You know, the girls who have bible quotes posted on the wall in their dorm room and claim to go to church camp yet are out in the club shakin their butt to trashy music in the club 3 nights out of the week. But I wouldn't say a lot of the youth are actively athiest YET..but i guess it is getting there
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