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| Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:34 pm)
Why do these players seem a lot better than guys playing college basketball today?
I'm usually somebody who thinks the game continues to evolve and players today are better than they were 20 years ago. But watching this documentary, those guys could play...
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:35 pm to PrimeTime Money)
One and done rule
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:38 pm to lsu2006)
And they also really didn't have the opportunity to leave after high school at that time. You have your exceptions (Dawkins), but it was a crazy idea back then
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:38 pm to PrimeTime Money)
Arkansas and Kentucky had some epic battles in the early 90's. That was some fun SEC basketball.
I think the one and done rule does apply here. Most of those players really bloomed as upper class man, and today, the best players rarely get there...
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:38 pm to lsu2006)
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One and done rule
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Yep. That UNLV team of the early 90's, Michigan's Fab 5 team, or Duke with Latner, Hurley, Hill, and Davis would go undefeated and absolutely destroy teams in today's NCAA b-ball.
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:38 pm to PrimeTime Money)
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1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team...
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Kevin Garnett was drafted with the fifth pick of the 1995 NBA Draft
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:44 pm to PrimeTime Money)
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Why do these players seem a lot better than guys playing college basketball today?
because they were. I honestly don't know why. Hell our average teams in the 90's had pat bradley and kareem reid on em. Those guys would wreck shop on the SEC in this era. College bball as a whole looks a lot worse and the SEC highlights this more than anything. It's sad. I used to love college basketball as much as college football.
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:45 pm to PrimeTime Money)
Better fundamental coaching in HS, and not learning bad habits in AAU ball.
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:47 pm to Jim Rockford)
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Better fundamental coaching in HS, and not learning bad habits in AAU ball.
if there's any impact here, it's slight
21/22 year olds v 18 year olds will look at lot differently
Kevin Garnett killed the ole school CBB. /thread
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:47 pm to PrimeTime Money)
Because they threw it down on the break!
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:49 pm to PrimeTime Money)
Kids starting 3 and 4 years before leaving. More of them had the glass empty and were coachable.
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:00 pm to slutiger5)
40 minutes of hell!!
Plus they had 3 lottery picks
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:01 pm to PrimeTime Money)
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Why do these players seem a lot better than guys playing college basketball today?
Because they were. In every other sport, I'd argue the current teams are better, but not college basketball. Teams from the late 80's and early 90's would CRUSH teams from the last 10-15 years.
Younger fans wonder why the 89-90 LSU team with CJ, Shaq and Roberts lost in the round of 32. That season CBB was absolutely loaded. We lost to a stacked GT team (Lethal Weapon III), UNLV, Michigan, Duke, Arkansas, LMU so many good teams, any one of 15 teams from 1990 would waltz to the title this year.
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:05 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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One and done rule
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you realize guys could have gone pro striaght out of HS back then don't you?
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Kevin Garnett killed the ole school CBB. /thread
Was it KG or prop 48? IIRC he would have gone to Michigan, but was a prop 48 causalty, so he said screw it and declared for the draft rather than sit out.
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:08 pm to H-Town Tiger)
possibly prop 48, but KG set the trend and after he did it, the floodgates opened
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:10 pm to H-Town Tiger)
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Because they were. In every other sport, I'd argue the current teams are better, but not college basketball. Teams from the late 80's and early 90's would CRUSH teams from the last 10-15 years.
ompletely agree.
Another factor is not just the elite talent drain, but the lack of "middle class" players. You'd have four-year guys who learned to simply play in the team's system and accept roles as great supporting players. Those guys are now asked to carry teams.
Also, because of the one and done rule, all of the top prospects go to Kentucky and Duke. They can reload every year. when they were keeping stars 3-4 years, big time talents would at least consider the Georgia Techs of the world so they could play right away.
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:48 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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possibly prop 48, but KG set the trend and after he did it, the floodgates opened
yeah, that's why i wonder if he had not be a prop 48 if hw would have gone or would others have followed.
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 2:05 pm to Baloo)
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Another factor is not just the elite talent drain, but the lack of "middle class" players. You'd have four-year guys who learned to simply play in the team's system and accept roles as great supporting players. Those guys are now asked to carry teams.
Also, because of the one and done rule, all of the top prospects go to Kentucky and Duke. They can reload every year. when they were keeping stars 3-4 years, big time talents would at least consider the Georgia Techs of the world so they could play right away.
The trickle down effect. That actually makes sense. Archie Goodwin was able to go right into Kentucky and play 30+ minutes a game because of their ridiculous turnover. Without that turnover he'd have been on the bench until his junior year and would have probably chosen Arkansas.
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 2:20 pm to Baloo)
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Another factor is not just the elite talent drain, but the lack of "middle class" players. You'd have four-year guys who learned to simply play in the team's system and accept roles as great supporting players. Those guys are now asked to carry teams.
i think that's a really good point. i remember back in the day having one or two players that i would consider 'made me nervous'- there's not a player on the team that doesn't make me nervous now. even bj young (who i know is really good)-i'd take any of those guys from the great years over him.
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| re: Watching a show on ESPN-U about 1993-'94 Arkansas basketball team... (Posted on 1/25/13 at 2:32 pm to H-Town Tiger)
SI Cover Article from 95 on Garnett
Read this a few weeks ago. Doesn't really answer your question- he cancelled his ACT re-take after a workout that secured a lotto spot, but it's interesting to read in hindsight.
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