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One of the biggest issues with a switch to 3-4: Depth

Posted on 1/25/13 at 11:41 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 11:41 am
While we have a few players that are better suited to a 3-4, those guys will likely start. We have 2-3 spots to fill in the staring lineup (NT or DE, OLB, S).

The rest is depth. We need a lot more guys suited for the system, and a lot of the backups just aren't suited for it and will likely be let go or moved. We've got to keep all of our picks in order to build depth, and I think we will spend a lot of time in FA on 3rd and 4th tier 3-4 guys in order to build it.

To me, that's going to be one of the biggest tasks in changing the defensive philosophy: depth and competent backups the suit the system.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 11:46 am to
I know I'm the minority, but I see NT as taken care of. I don't see why Bunkley an Hicks couldn't be your two deep there.

Rush OLB is top priority IMO.

I agree with DE Bc Jordan is your best fit...don't really know well Smith will do there. We still have McBride but that's also an unknown.

S is def last on the list. Would be nice to upgrade there but with this new switch, I will be very highly disappointed if we use even our 3rd rounder but only 2nd pick on a S
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 11:47 am
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 11:49 am to
We're definitely gonna have to get creative. I'd imagine we'll be super active (as usual) in udfa.
Posted by BarbeTiger
Mr. White's Lab Yo
Member since Jan 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 11:50 am to
Depth will come with time
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 11:50 am to
quote:

We're definitely gonna have to get creative. I'd imagine we'll be super active (as usual) in udfa.



Agree. When you run the 4-3 for years, you have years to acquire depth.

When you switch like this, you have to either acquire all of your depth or plug guys into roles that they might not fit super well.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 11:51 am to
Rush OLB is Galette, Wilson, and Cassilias, maybe. So adding someone else there would be a good upgrade.

Also may want to look at another ILB.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Depth will come with time


We've got one offseason.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Also may want to look at another ILB.


+1

I wouldn't mind taking a guy like Ogletree from UGA in the first.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 11:58 am to
I see Hawthorne and Lofton as locks for ILB. So obviously, you need two backups. I don't know if we have those guys on the roster.

Martez played ILB in Illinois' 3-4, FYI.
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
36513 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:01 pm to
I wouldn't mind seeing us take Minter first round!
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61198 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

I don't see why Bunkley an Hicks couldn't be your two deep there.
Hicks seems awfully tall for a NT. Are there any other 6'5 NT's in the league?

Seems like he'd be a possible fit at DE in the 3-4.
Posted by afatgreekcat
Atlanta, GA
Member since Jan 2013
2828 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

I wouldn't mind seeing us take Minter first round!


:inb4lsuhomer:

But for serious, I think 15th would be reaching for Minter unless he dominates at the combine. I would be ok with trading down to the bottom of the round if it meant taking Minter, or if we get our 2nd rounder, I would love to take him there.
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Hicks seems awfully tall for a NT. Are there any other 6'5 NT's in the league?

Seems like he'd be a possible fit at DE in the 3-4.




I see him as playing DE most of the time and playing NT on obvious passing downs.

He is a bit tall, and has long arms. Guy is huge and has great athleticism for his size...given that combo I think he could be a superb DE opposite Cam.
Posted by 41bengal
Da' Ville
Member since Jun 2009
2071 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 4:12 pm to
we have some players that will fit in better to a 3-4. Smith is great a holding his ground. He just doesn't get much pressure on a qb, that is what the d-ends in a 34 are asked to do. Yes it's nice to have a NT like nagata are wilfolk but they don't fallout of trees. We have guys like hicks and bunkley that can be like ratliff in dallas hell they are bigger than ratliff. We just need to bring in a stud olb/de to bring that pass rush.
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:00 pm to
On the current roster, in my humble opinion, and I've said this for two years, the most athletic defensive player is Martez Wilson. He needs to be on the field, in some capacity. Period.
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