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Controlling threads on the Political Board

Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:18 am
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:18 am
Can we at least minimize trolling threads where the title calls a politician a name? Obvious trolling job
And, though I don't think we should protect politicians from scrutiny, I doubt that we'd see threads remain if someone called Obama, Hillary, Bush, etc. names like Rex has done.

IMO, if a poster can't discuss issues in a civilized way without calling a politician a name, you don't deserve to post on the Political Board.
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:25 am to
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without calling a politician a name


Are you out of your motherfricking mind?

Death to all Paulites!!!!!!!
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:52 am to
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Doc Fenton
obviously i don't mean that we can't criticize them. I just think that calling a politician an "arse", as Rex has done, is trolling. And, I think the same thing of someone who calls Obama a Marxist or the like. Calling them names causes anonymity and lessens the likelihood that actual discussion will take place. Instead, posters call each other names back and forth an political issues are very rarely discussed.

Is it really a bad idea to limit the name calling so that actual political discussion can be had?
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:17 am to
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I doubt that we'd see threads remain if someone called Obama, Hillary, Bush, etc. names like Rex has done.


Are you fricking serious?


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IMO, if a poster can't discuss issues in a civilized way without calling a politician a name, you don't deserve to post on the Political Board.


Agreed, since I'm in the minority of posters who don't make a habit of hurling personal insults at politicians whom I've never met.

Have you done any bitching about CajunAngele, EST, Newcomb, or any of the dozen or so poliboard regulars who regularly hurl insults at politicians and everyone else?

It's pretty spineless to pick on someone like Rex simply because he, as a dissenting voice, is such an easy target.

fricking spineless.
Posted by TigerFred
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:28 am to
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Controlling threads on the Political Board


There is this Request Admin icon you can click on to let us know that something needs to be addressed.
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Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:30 am to
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It's pretty spineless to pick on someone like Rex simply because he, as a dissenting voice, is such an easy target.

fricking spineless

why? He created a thread with an insult in the title. The entire purpose of the thread was a troll. If someone else creates a thread and calls Obama a name, I'll RA and make sure to point that out to Admins.

I've already stated that it is wrong regardless of who does the name calling. It takes away from the conversation. and, I think it is hilarious how you call me spineless in a thread about hurling insults at people. Nice.

And, just so you know, I disagree with almost every poster on the Political Board on almost every single issue. Both Republicans and Democrats alike disgust me. Both parties, and those who enable them by voting and knighting for them, have become evil.

I dislike those who say Obama is a Marxist, Bush is an idiot, Sarah Palin is a whore, and Ted Kennedy is a murderer all equally. Both sides, and many in between, are creating a cloud of confusion that disables others to see the real issues that are country faces.

I'd like to be able to go to the Political Board without seeing any of the name calling , from either side.
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:35 am to
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There is this Request Admin icon you can click on to let us know that something needs to be addressed
I don't wanna get banned for RAing at least one post in nearly every thread. My request is to tighten the reigns on the Political Board so that posters can't just troll, call names, and derail every single thread.

and, i'm not picking on Rex, just this horrible thread he started. In many cases, he starts a real thread wanting real discussion, and it gets derailed with rex;dr, go eff your dog, Obama is a Marxist, and similar comments. This happens equally on both sides of the aisle. And, it is extremely frustrating and makes the Political Board unbearable at times.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:39 am to
Man that board is full of pussies. How bout you just don't click the thread?
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:40 am to
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why? He created a thread with an insult in the title. The entire purpose of the thread was a troll. If someone else creates a thread and calls Obama a name, I'll RA and make sure to point that out to Admins. I've already stated that it is wrong regardless of who does the name calling. It takes away from the conversation. and, I think it is hilarious how you call me spineless in a thread about hurling insults at people. Nice. And, just so you know, I disagree with almost every poster on the Political Board on almost every single issue. Both Republicans and Democrats alike disgust me. Both parties, and those who enable them by voting and knighting for them, have become evil. I dislike those who say Obama is a Marxist, Bush is an idiot, Sarah Palin is a whore, and Ted Kennedy is a murderer all equally. Both sides, and many in between, are creating a cloud of confusion that disables others to see the real issues that are country faces. I'd like to be able to go to the Political Board without seeing any of the name calling , from either side.


Allow my to soften the "spineless" remark, then. Fact is, dozens of ridiculously insulting posts are made on the poliboard (and the Rant and the OT) every day. Singling out one of the people on this site who already gets 1000x the abuse that the average poster receives because he is an ideological minority doesn't seem like a really stand up thing to do, though. Yes, Rex trolls. Lots of other posters post troll-level shite as well. It just doesn't come across as trolling because 75% of the posters on this board are prepared to believe the most incredible nonsense imaginable about anyone with whom they don't agree or anyone who makes them uncomfortable.

Calling a pol an arse is pretty mild, to be honest.
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:43 am to
You're totally missing the point.

The gmorgan-esque crusade against "name calling" is inherently absurd. It makes no sense at all when you think about it. I mean, what's a name? It's a label. What's a label? Well, words are labels. You see where I'm going here?

If you're going to campaign against "name calling," you might as well campaign against describing things. Logically, there is just nowhere to draw the line. The only thing you can fall back upon is the old "well you know it when you see it" line, but when it comes to politics, I really doubt anyone can.

I'm not here to knight for Rex. I haven't read too many of his posts lately, so I have no idea if he's trolling or not, but in the past I remember him as somebody who was genuinely pissed off at a lot of things, which is sort of the whole point of having the Political Talk board in the first place, no?

The PT board has indeed become unbearable, but not because of angry posters calling politicians names. Quite the opposite. It has become unbearable because of snarky cynical posters who troll the board with a bunch of canned one-line sarcastic responses because they somehow think they are above it all. Sarcasm grows weary if you use it too often.

The only way to take the PT board back is to rid it of the infestation of snarky hipster assholes. If it can just go back to the old way of being filled with good old fashioned rabid frothing-at-the-mouth fights over legitimate issues, then that would make it about 1000 times better than what it is now.
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:45 am to
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Obama is a Marxist


What's wrong with saying that? Come on, man.
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:47 am to
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If you're going to campaign against "name calling," you might as well campaign against describing things. Logically, there is just nowhere to draw the line. The only thing you can fall back upon is the old "well you know it when you see it" line, but when it comes to politics, I really doubt anyone can.


Agree that there's nothing practical to be done about the name-calling, but it definitely (IMO) cheapens the dialogue.

And snarkiness and people "being above it all" are among the least of the poliboard's problems.
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:47 am to
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The only way to take the PT board back is to rid it of the infestation of snarky hipster assholes. If it can just go back to the old way of being filled with good old fashioned rabid frothing-at-the-mouth fights over legitimate issues, then that would make it about 1000 times better than what it is now.


This is all I would like to see. However it could be accomplished is fine by me. And, I agree with the one-line responses. But, I don't think people are being sarcastic. I think some of those guys/gals actually believe the crap they are spouting.
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:50 am to
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What's wrong with saying that? Come on, man.

there's nothing wrong with saying that. but, if you want to have a discussion about some policy that you believe is wrong, the thread shouldn't be derailed with all of the people who hate Obama saying, "Marxist", "Socialist", and all of those who love him saying, "You're racists", "you hate poor people".

There is almost zero real discussion of any issue ever on the political board. And, a great deal of that is because people are spewing nonsense like Marxist and Racist back and forth in every single thread.
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:50 am to
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And snarkiness and people "being above it all" are among the least of the poliboard's problems.


bullshite. It's THE #1 problem over there beyond any shadow of a doubt. Nothing else even comes close.

The posters may even sort of believe in what they're saying, but when they think it's better to just drop sarcasm because it's funny rather than actually stopping to think and make a detailed response, then that's when the board becomes totally trivial and useless.
This post was edited on 1/24/13 at 7:52 am
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 8:00 am to
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The posters may even sort of believe in what they're saying, but when they think it's better to just drop sarcasm because it's funny rather than actually stopping to think and make a detailed response, then that's when the board becomes totally trivial and useless.


Meh, I guess I see your point if you're talking about unsubstantitated one-line brush offs (and/or tl;dr rex;dr type stuff). I thought you meant snarky, dismissive attitudes. Most of the regulars on the board probably have a pretty good feel (positively or negatively) for most other regulars. And it seems that 95% of the debates on the board are re-treads. Probably leads to some of the snark.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 8:07 am to
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The gmorgan-esque crusade against "name calling"
Huh? I mean, I think it's ridiculous and I think people get away with more stuff against Rex and other Dems than you could get away with against others on the board. I didn't think I was leading or part of a "crusade" against it, though.
Posted by TK421
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 9:45 am to
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Singling out one of the people on this site who already gets 1000x the abuse that the average poster receives


Even you have to admit he has it coming.

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because he is an ideological minority


That's not the reason. He posts vids of himself dressed up as a dog.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 10:46 am to
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Calling them names causes anonymity

I believe you mean "animosity"... which leads to two points:

1- perhaps you don't have the brains to hang
2- animosity on a political talk board? You don't say!

As far as your subject matter goes, a few more points:

1- I didn't merely call Rand Paul an arse. I supported that opinion with facts.
2- When has anybody ever run to the Help Board because Obama or Hillary was called a name? Because THEY are not asses they deserve a lot more respect than does Rand Paul.
3- Get real.
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 10:52 am to
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1- perhaps you don't have the brains to hang



thats funny coming from you
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