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HailHailtoMichigan! 
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| What exactly is liberal about the current democratic party? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:04 pm)
Why are the words progressive and liberal used interchangeably, when more often than not progressivism restricts freedom?
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accnodefense
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| re: What exactly is liberal about the current democratic party? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:05 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
Depends on your definition of liberal
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weagle99
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| re: What exactly is liberal about the current democratic party? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
Depends on your definition of freedom.
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HailHailtoMichigan!
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| re: What exactly is liberal about the current democratic party? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:07 pm to accnodefense)
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Depends on your definition of liberal
Classical liberalism
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HailHailtoMichigan!
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| re: What exactly is liberal about the current democratic party? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:07 pm to weagle99)
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Depends on your definition of freedom.
The only true definition. Freedom from, not freedom to.
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mograyback 
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| re: What exactly is liberal about the current democratic party? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
Both parties are national socialists.
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HailHailtoMichigan!
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| re: What exactly is liberal about the current democratic party? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:09 pm to mograyback)
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Both parties are national socialists.
Explain plox.
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HempHead 
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| re: What exactly is liberal about the current democratic party? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
Liberalism: Reclaiming the Term
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Taxing Authority 
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| re: What exactly is liberal about the current democratic party? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:11 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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What exactly is liberal about the current democratic party?
Nothing. They are authoritarians.
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HailHailtoMichigan!
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| re: What exactly is liberal about the current democratic party? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:12 pm to HempHead)
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HempHead
I have been meaning to read that for a while now. IIRC, Hayek also talks about the transformation of the term in a few chapters in TRTS.
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Rohan2Reed
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| re: What exactly is liberal about the current democratic party? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:14 pm to Taxing Authority)
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Nothing. They are authoritarians.
Basically all politicians are authoritarian to some point, regardless of party. That's what most Americans want .. someone to be submissive to.
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HempHead
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| re: What exactly is liberal about the current democratic party? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:17 pm to Rohan2Reed)
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Basically all politicians are authoritarian to some point, regardless of party. That's what most Americans want .. someone to be submissive to.
Here is a good article elaborating on the state's role a parental/authority figure for those who have not grown up, for whatever reason.
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