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re: This is really, really bad for the NFL

Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:05 am to
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22471 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:05 am to
quote:

keep thinking checkers while the rest of us discuss chess, kid



This ain't the Saints board, breh

Looks like it's time to change that pad down low. Anus is leaking too much now.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80185 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:06 am to
go away.

the grownups are talking.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421771 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:07 am to
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the part about the NFL hiding it is part of the claims of the players' lawsuits.

but that's only 1994-onward. that makes the slice of players who can make that claim a lot smaller

quote:

The part of the NFL denying it existed, pretty sure there are articles with quotes from the NFL denying it.

the NFL isn't a medical expert. there are still disagreements about the effects today. i saw neuros criticize that study that just made the public rounds a few weeks ago. that's not a real argument against the NFL

and the studies aren't hidden. what prevented the NFLPA from looking up studies or players individually from getting independent medical treatment/advice? nothing. hell, the NFLPA is as liable as the NFL
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22471 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:08 am to
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the grownups are talking.



-3/10

will read again
Posted by nofear67
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
2285 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:11 am to
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imo, it's the equivalent of a soldier suing the military because he suffers from ptsd. you know the risks before stepping on the respective fields of battle.

WTF? Tell me you posted this drunk!
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13652 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:13 am to
Does anyone have links to the articles where the NFL denies that there is a problem with brain injuries? I'd be interested in reading those.

Was there a waiver specifically warning players of other injuries they may incur while playing football (cervical spine fractures with paralysis/death, ACL injuries, arm/leg fractures, sports hernias, turf toe, etc.), while specifically omitting head injuries from the list?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59078 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:15 am to
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If the NFL had never lied about this, where would this situation be right now?


What did they lie about? I missed that in the article?
Posted by iliveinabox
in a box
Member since Aug 2011
24115 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:19 am to
breh...flag football here we come
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:20 am to
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but that's only 1994-onward. that makes the slice of players who can make that claim a lot smaller

I could see the league trying to exclude the latest crop of players on the argument that by the time they came into the league, the danger of head injuries was well publicized.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:26 am to
found this one

LINK


LINK
This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 10:28 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59078 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:27 am to
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Good hopefully the NFL dies off over the next 10 years.


I won't, it will probably never go away. And if you don't like it, don't watch or pay attention to it.

What will happen is the lower levels of football will be crippled. Eventually many pee wee type leagues and even some High Schools will have to drop it over insurance costs. Which has all kinds of unintended consequences. such is life of the Land of the Safe and the home of the dependant.
This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 10:32 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110701 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:30 am to
quote:

What did they lie about? I missed that in the article?


It's either they knew and lied, or they were just completely wrong and are saying the opposite now as they did then.

LINK

quote:

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell did not acknowledge a connection between head injuries on the football field and later brain diseases while defending the league's policies on concussions before Congress on Wednesday.

That frustrated several members of the House Judiciary Committee, including the committee chairman, Michigan Democrat John Conyers, when Goodell told him the NFL isn't waiting for that debate to play out and is taking steps to make the game safer.

"I just asked you a simple question. What is the answer?" persisted Conyers.

Goodell replied by saying a medical expert could give a better answer than he could. But some House members complained later that Dr. Ira Casson, chairman of the NFL's committee on concussions, had not testified.

Rep. Linda Sanchez, D-Calif., gave Casson some exposure anyway, playing a clip of a TV interview in which he denied evidence of a link between multiple head injuries in NFL players with brain disorders such as dementia and Alzheimer's
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Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59078 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:30 am to
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TigerBait1127


Thanks
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13652 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:31 am to
If the NFL were to die off, so would high level college football.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:33 am to
quote:

If the NFL were to die off, so would high level college football.

... And the rise of American soccer
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59078 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:33 am to
It won't die off, has any industry suffered more lawsuits and been found to lie about health risks more than the tobacco indusrty? They are still around.
This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 10:36 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421771 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:34 am to
quote:

And the rise of American soccer

Nope...heading is alleged to cause brain damage
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110701 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:34 am to
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the NFL isn't a medical expert.
The NFL's medical expert is a medical expert.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421771 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:36 am to
did they testify or have they given a public statement?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110701 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:37 am to
quote:

did they testify or have they given a public statement?

Check the link above that I posted with quotes.

Tigerbait's first link is probably even better. It's an article about the NFL's expert on the subject dismissing the link.
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