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Fallacy: Miles philosophy of keeping games close

Posted on 1/6/13 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 8:22 pm
Big fallacy common among negatigers.
4 times in the 8 years under Miles, LSU has been top 10 FBS in avg Margin of Victory vs FBS teams, and LSU is also ranked FBS top ten MoV during the BCS era.
Factual posts. Read 'em and weep, haters.

Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44541 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 8:26 pm to
if he wasn't trying to keep games close, why not review this?

:mettscored:

Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19282 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

if he wasn't trying to keep games close, why not review this?

:mettscored:

I hope you aren't being serious
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30163 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 8:38 pm to
I equate anyone using the term "negatiger" to someone who uses the word "noob" in video games.

The time people waste trying to bash Miles and company aren't nearly as pathetic as the people attention whoring by lending a blind eye to minor flaws in an above average coach.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 8:42 pm to
[quote]:mettscored: [/quote
Coulda been 59-3?

As usual, ain't got nothin'.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 8:43 pm to
In competitive games, There is no doubt Les plays the game of attrition.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

lending a blind eye to minor flaws in an above average coach.
I can't relate to the video game ref, since I'm no X-boxer, but the blind eye belongs to those repeating bullshite.
One should be sure their platform has legs before standing on it.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

The philosophy that Coach Miles had was to be good on defense, be good on special teams and win it in the fourth quarter," Crowton said. "We won a lot of games in the fourth quarter. We beat Auburn twice in the fourth quarter. What it did is it shortened the game. We didn't have a lot of offensive plays. When you look statistically, it wasn't great, but that wasn't our goal. Our goal was to win games. We won 40 in four years. - Gary Crowton

Hardly just a fan.

I think I'll believe someone that sat in with Miles day after day, than some unrealistic Miles pumper.

I've seen the results against Towson, Troy, Tenn, Auburn, La Tech, Ole Miss, and Clemson myself
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

There is no doubt Les plays the game of attrition.
Yep, got nothing to do with talent level keeping games close.

LSU beat bama 9-6, because the staff wanted a 3pt W in OT.
No coach has a playshet like this.

They may employ a time eating series of playcalls late, or vs up-tempo Os, but it's not some inherent philosophy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 9:01 pm to
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There is no doubt Les plays the game of attrition.
Yep, got nothing to do with talent level keeping games close.



Do you agree or disagree with the comment?
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

In competitive games

Wouldn't a competitive game, by definition, be close?
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 9:10 pm to
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Crowton said.

Measure that against what Danny O said about him.

Crowton is joke and his claim to LSU fame came before he could fully install his shitastic scheme.

I guess those 4 years were some accidental failure to lead FBS in MoV.
Like, dammit, we were supposed to have lowest margin of victory.
Try harder next year
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 9:11 pm to
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Yep, got nothing to do with talent level keeping games close.


Is that why LSU struggled to beat the worst auburn team in decades? Because the talent level of the 2 teams is so close?
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

Do you agree or disagree with the comment?
I disagree, since the records disprove.
I'm not one to spout off on unfounded claim.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

In competitive games

Wouldn't a competitive game, by definition, be close?



Yes. I believe the offense becomes more conservative in these games. The Auburn game this year is a good example. The offense went into a crawl.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30163 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 9:14 pm to
quote:

I can't relate to the video game ref, since I'm no X-boxer, but the blind eye belongs to those repeating bullshite.
One should be sure their platform has legs before standing on it.


Short blonde,nice rack, flat stomach, perfect arse, long legs....she's stellar and one of the sexiest women on earth...but she has extremely yellow teeth (and it ruins the rest of her appearance sometimes when she smiles). You'd still date her and eff the crap out of her and won't ever leave her because she's THAT sexy. Doesn't take away from the fact that she still couldn't be slightly better if she whitened her damn teeth.

That's what Miles is. An excellent coach, recruiter, and has all the attributes of a great coach with the track record to prove it. That doesn't mean his minor flaws are drastically affecting his positive attributes.

The LSU football program is kicking arse and taking names. However, if Miles was a better game manager and would stop getting in his own way on offense, LSU would be even better. Pointing out the little things that Miles could be better at isn't bashing him or saying he's crap. It's constructive, FACTUAL criticism, that if he was self aware enough to realize, he'd be hoisting his 3rd Crystal ball Monday night.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 9:19 pm to
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Is that why LSU struggled to beat the worst auburn team in decades? Because the talent level of the 2 teams is so close?
Do you follow recruiting at all? The AU team was young, but highly touted.
The problem with AU game wasn't playcalls, it was execution.
LSU had RZ malfunctions, but it's not like the staff said we want 2 1st downs inside the 25.
TD plays were called, just not executed to fruition.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 9:21 pm to
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as pathetic as the people attention whoring

By coming over here from the OT and gaming board pretending to know anything about real football.

Tell us: online gaming vs console? Where do you get your football experience?
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 9:22 pm to
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Crowton is joke and his claim to LSU fame came before he could fully install his shitastic scheme.

I figured you would bite on that. But you know what, you're full of shite. Even Miles himself disagrees with you
quote:

Generally speaking, we get to the back end of a game, we know how to play it. We'll make it difficult on our opponent, it may be the greatest characteristic of our football team. - Les Miles
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76176 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 9:26 pm to
LSU blows out teams when it can. The offense is just normally too crappy to do it.

There have been plenty of blowouts.
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