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coaches ame did their job in Clemson game

Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:14 am
Posted by Patches
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
336 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:14 am
The coaches put Mettenberer in position to ice the game and he could not complete a 6 yard pass. They complete the pass on second down and the whole game is over.Not a coaching issue, the offense is deplorable but the coaches put them in position to win and they can't complete a six yard pass to a wide open reciever. Some times the players need to take some responsibility. I don't think Mettenberger is the answer, LSU needs to go back to running the ball and win with defense. Watch Ala win tne NC running the ball. Mett is a improvement from last year but not by any means a reason to change the philophesy of the offense
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:18 am to
We get ready for the , very vocal, MILES HATERS. They will say its Miles' fault for Mett not being able to throw a 4 yard out route because Miles recruited Mett.

Honestly, my son can make that throw.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:19 am to
Well get ready for the , very vocal, MILES HATERS. They will say its Miles' fault for Mett not being able to throw a 4 yard out route because Miles recruited Mett.

Honestly, my son can make that throw.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:20 am to
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Mett is a improvement from last year but not by any means a reason to change the philophesy of the offense


I'm not so sure Mett is an improvement over JJ/ Jlee. I know we probably win the UF game with JJ because he can Atleast pick up yards when the pocket breaks down.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:24 am to
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LSU needs to go back to running the ball


so it was the coaches fault then

he hasn't been able to throw rolling out all year long, so why have him do it there?

2 yards with a 10 ypc running back, who we decided to give 0 4th quarter carries to
This post was edited on 1/5/13 at 9:26 am
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:25 am to
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Patches


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The coaches put Mettenberer in position to ice the game and he could not complete a 6 yard pass. They complete the pass on second down and the whole game is over.Not a coaching issue, the offense is deplorable but the coaches put them in position to win and they can't complete a six yard pass to a wide open reciever. Some times the players need to take some responsibility. I don't think Mettenberger is the answer, LSU needs to go back to running the ball and win with defense. Watch Ala win tne NC running the ball. Mett is a improvement from last year but not by any means a reason to change the philophesy of the offense


Your entire post reeks of dumbassery. This game had no business being boiled down to one drive, nor distilled down to one play.

The ineptitude of the playcalls (29 passes/19 Runs) and the ridiculous disparity in pass/run ratio away from our normal mixture shows me the staff-once again-is just lacking focus.

We need to pick an identity and stick to it. That's a coaching issue. But what we need most of all is someone who can actually see these play calling tangents happening in the moment and recognize it and bring us back to what we do. Help us find our identity. Make sure we focus our offense around an effective running game. That we move the pocket away from the rush and give Mett shorter routes to get the ball out quicker.

We need someone at the head of the table to keep us focused because our offensive staff has appeared like an ADHD addled kid with our playbook during the back half of the schedule.

We've been told its a collaborative, more knights of the round table method on offense. It's obvious that the one amongst equals isn't working for us. We need a leader on offense capable of reminding us of who we are.

Les evidently isn't capable of fulfilling that role in the heat of battle. So we should find someone who is.

(This is not me advocating his termination; he needs someone to make the calls as "The Man" on offense)
Posted by coonass27
shreveport
Member since Mar 2008
3620 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:30 am to
For anyone to sit there and act like nothing is wrong is absolutely laughable. There is a serious problem with our head coach and our non existent offense. It's been a problem and The luck of miles is running out. Save me this ain't the 90's/ Dinardo/Hallman/ most winningest coach/ crap. This isnt 2006 either. There is a problem and it needs to be addressed. We are going to loose 12 guys to the draft and I for one don't blame them. I lost all faith in miles. It started in the BCSNCG and he confirmed it this pat season.

Some may put it on Mett but that's not the whole picture. Other great Div I coaches loose, he'll sometimes they get beat bad, but those coaches see the problem and fix it. Les miles still swears by it that his game plan was great and wouldn't change a thing. His stupidity Is one thing but his stubbornness is down right piss poor.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14476 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:31 am to
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he hasn't been able to throw rolling out all year long, so why have him do it there?


This...I bet if you charted Mett's efficiency on roll outs this year one would find his accuracy is not very good. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but it sure seems that way.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:33 am to
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Tiger Ugly


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This...I bet if you charted Mett's efficiency on roll outs this year one would find his accuracy is not very good. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but it sure seems that way.


He worked on his footwork in the open date and leading up to Bama. His accuracy on the move improved greatly as a result. Chart it, I'm not lying.

On the whole you're correct. But Krags broke him down and they worked and it paid off on the back end of the schedule.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:35 am to
Wrong.Once again the inability to adjust to the defensive scheme was the problem.What the hell are some of you watching when these games are being played?
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14476 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:40 am to
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He worked on his footwork in the open date and leading up to Bama. His accuracy on the move improved greatly as a result. Chart it, I'm not lying.


I would agree it got better. But good enough to put the game in his hands with? One could say, of course in 20/20 hindsight....no.

I have that benefit as a fanatic I realize.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7215 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:40 am to
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Wrong.Once again the inability to adjust to the defensive scheme was the problem.What the hell are some of you watching when these games are being played?


You are an idiot, we played one of the most explosive offenses in college football and our offense is keeping our D on the field the whole game but it's the D's fault. Get a life!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:42 am to
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For anyone to sit there and act like nothing is wrong is absolutely laughable. There is a serious problem with our head coach and our non existent offense. It's been a problem and The luck of miles is running out. Save me this ain't the 90's/ Dinardo/Hallman/ most winningest coach/ crap. This isnt 2006 either. There is a problem and it needs to be addressed. We are going to loose 12 guys to the draft and I for one don't blame them. I lost all faith in miles. It started in the BCSNCG and he confirmed it this pat season.


I want a new OC too but dont act like LSU hasn't had good offenses under Miles. 2011 offense was fine. Also our offense this year was rolling until we lost our best pass and run blocker in Faulk( we have ran behind him for 2 years). 4/5 top offense , EVER AT LSU, are miles coached teams.
This post was edited on 1/5/13 at 9:44 am
Posted by Escobar600
Member since Jan 2011
4777 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:49 am to
they did a good job not using a 230 lb RB who was basically the only bright spot in the O averaging over 10 yards per carry. Instead they counted on an average on his best day QB. Pretty moronic if you ask me.
Posted by bobbyleewilliams
Tigertown
Member since Feb 2010
8266 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:52 am to
quote:

ame


Pardon me, I know I am old but what does that mean?
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:53 am to
You stupid MFer,learn how to comprehend.The inability to adjust to the opposing teams defense,jeez.
Posted by coonass27
shreveport
Member since Mar 2008
3620 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:01 am to
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I want a new OC too but dont act like LSU hasn't had good offenses under Miles. 2011 offense was fine


It was fine due to a lights out D that put an able QB in the game to manage it. Lee was no Montana but he got the job done. And what happened to that fine offense after the Bama game? It went to shite due to the Holy miles and his coaching actions

quote:

Also our offense this year was rolling until we lost our best pass and run blocker


Our O was never rolling this year. We whipped up on some cup cakes and Washington. We were still good enough to beat Bama but coaching got in the way. We have regressed as an offense even though we are told of the improvements each off season.

quote:

4/5 top offense , EVER AT LSU, are miles coached teams


And your point. That was years ago and what have you don't for me lately? Im sure the stellar offense that miles has produced the past 4 years could be labeled the worst at LSU also. The is no future livin in the past.
Posted by LSUFAN2
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2011
2431 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:43 am to
TigerBait1127- You are confusing them with factual information.

Whys is LSU always playing to protect a lead, because the coaches do not prepare a QB! That is exactly why LSU will not have another high profile QB.

There is no excuse for our QB & offense not to have 8-10 plays the QB is comfortable running, the offense is consistent at running. The QB’s should be running those plays through their head, envisioning the play developing. This should be practiced every practice even during short & pad sessions.

There should be no reason for the QB to have to look to the sideline. It should be automatic for our offense. Every team that plays LSU their coaches know to play base defense because MoRon will play not to lose.

The only time LSU fans see a real two-minute drill is watching our tigers fight for their lives defending teams that Miles has given the opportunity to win because of his dumb arse decisions
Posted by Algerian
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
646 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:53 am to
Our offense runs 50 plays to 100 against a terrible ACC defense. Our defensive players are having body seizures but yeah great offensive coaching, it's all Mett's fault for choking on that pass. How many years of this shite offensively, different coaches, different players, same results. Hmmmmm?
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:57 am to
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We get ready for the , very vocal, MILES HATERS. They will say its Miles' fault for Mett not being able to throw a 4 yard out route because Miles recruited Mett.

Honestly, my son can make that throw.



Those last 2 plays were all on Mett. His choice to opt for the pass on second and his choice to audible on third. He saw the loaded box and did not think about running the clock down (not a fact just an assumption). Does anyone see the Irony of not running an option play here?
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