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In his recent book Presidential Perks Gone Royal, Robert Keith Gray, a former Eisenhower staffer, revealed that last year the U.S. presidency cost American taxpayers $1.4 billion. Over the same period, the entire royal family cost British taxpayers about $57 million. There’s nothing “royal” about the current level of “presidential perks”: The Obama family costs taxpayers more than every European royal house put together.


We've elevated the office of the President higher than it was ever intended to be. Its really time to bring the office back down to earth.



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lett's be fair and say American Presidents live better than kings


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Full. Fricking. Retard.


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I hate asking this, but were you saying this during Bush?

If people wanted this point to be taken seriously, you wouldn't just focus on the current president, unless this involves just the current president.

But, we know it doesn't.


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the majority of the cost is travel and security...it would be hard to bring that down



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the majority of the cost is travel and security...it would be hard to bring that down



Right. He's a head of state and is expected to travel. Also, the royal family has its own wealth. It's pretty hard to compare the two.


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What a stupid comparison. Why don't you and Stein take a moment to figure out the difference between a governing Head of State and a titular Head of State (who did nothing to earn that, by the way, save being born).
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I hate asking this, but were you saying this during Bush?

If people wanted this point to be taken seriously, you wouldn't just focus on the current president, unless this involves just the current president.

But, we know it doesn't.


Name me one thing Obama has done to show

humility

unselfishness

honor

dignity

character

Romney was most likely going to not take his POTUS 400K salary as POTUS.

Obama would never do the same even if he were a trillionaire.

I am sick to death of people dragging Bush into this.

Obama has no regards whatsoever on cutting down on spending in any way,shape or form. He is an arrogant POS.

Post evidence Obama is not a selfish elitist.


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Right. He's a head of state and is expected to travel. Also, the royal family has its own wealth. It's pretty hard to compare the two.
Yes and no. I agree that it undoubtably will cost us more, but the difference is insane and should be addressed.

According to the article, it is a difference of about $1.45 billion dollars. That is an issue, IMO.


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Post evidence Obama is not a selfish elitist.
This is irrelevant. The issue here isn't Obama's personality, it is whether he alone deserves the scorn.

Post evidence that this is just an issue pertaining to Obama.

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Romney was most likely going to not take his POTUS 400K salary as POTUS.
Ok.
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I am sick to death of people dragging Bush into this.
I like the man, but, as I said, this should be directed at the office, not just the man.


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According to the article, it is a difference of about $1.45 billion dollars. That is an issue, IMO.



Why compare it to the royal family of the United Kingdom though? Why not compare what the taxpayer spends on the President to the head of government in China, Japan, or Germany, and then put that into perspective with the sizes of GDP? I think you would find that the spending on the first family isn't that outrageous, especially considering the security detail that is required for a President in a country like the United States.


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Right. He's a head of state and is expected to travel.



Going on vacation in Hawaii when he was just there a week ago isn't exactly official business.


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Ah yes, let's start a thread about a book which came out 5 months ago, by a Republican activist, which was debunked on its comparisons between expenses of Bush vs Obama and debunked as having unsubstantiated costs.


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These numbers are mostly a result of a profligate military, providing these services who never saw a price that was too high. I bet these numbers could be cut in half with little change to security or travel.


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Post evidence Obama is not a selfish elitist.

I will. As soon as you post evidence that you don't beat your wife.


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Why compare it to the royal family of the United Kingdom though? Why not compare what the taxpayer spends on the President to the head of government in China, Japan, or Germany, and then put that into perspective with the sizes of GDP?
I agree that the comparison is lacking and there are much better ones that could be made. I would like to see those numbers.

I'm not sure what GDP has to do with issue though. The fluctuations of the GDP should not "significantly" affect the cost of the presidency. I'm not extremely well-versed on economics being a biology major, so you'll have to give me a little leeway here.

If our GDP were to drop, would you expect the presidency to cost less?

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I think you would find that the spending on the first family isn't that outrageous, especially considering the security detail that is required for a President in a country like the United States.
Yes, the security detail is bound to be expensive, but I highly doubt it makes up all of the $1.5 billion dollar bill.

I don't have the numbers though. That is just speculation.


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Why compare it to the royal family of the United Kingdom though? Why not compare what the taxpayer spends on the President to the head of government in China, Japan, or Germany, and then put that into perspective with the sizes of GDP? I think you would find that the spending on the first family isn't that outrageous, especially considering the security detail that is required for a President in a country like the United States.


exactly.

plus, the President of the United States is a much bigger deal and much more important than being a "Queen" or "King" of England which is really just a title and nothing more at this point.

What are the taxpayer costs associated with David Cameron and the Royal Family? I bet Cameron likes "better than Kings" too

It's not like Obama is pocketing 1.4 billion a year salary or something
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Name me one thing Obama has done to show

humility

unselfishness

honor

dignity

character


In your eyes he can never do this...you will see any act as selfish.

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Romney was most likely going to not take his POTUS 400K salary as POTUS.

Obama would never do the same even if he were a trillionaire.


This is what I mean....he's not a "trillionaire" therefore he takes his salary, but you project that he would regardless.

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I am sick to death of people dragging Bush into this.


The problem is that the problem with our government isn't this president alone and specifically he isn't living differently than the preceding president.

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Obama has no regards whatsoever on cutting down on spending in any way,shape or form.


You could say the same about Bush...again, it's not limited to just this guy...you need to get over your "team" mindset.



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Work it into 2013!!!


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