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re: Imma put a End to the Crutchfield hates LSU crap!

Posted on 12/27/12 at 9:52 am to
Posted by LUS Tiger in FL
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 9:52 am to
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It doesnt matter what you post about Crutch, people will believwe what they want to believe. Even when LF becomes a Tiger, they will just say Crutch didnt have any say so.

LMAO that BSylve will get processed. He might not become a starter, but he isnt going anywhere.

Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 9:55 am to
Poll the nation, you'll see who people perceive to be the better program.

And guess what, perception is reality.

I don't understand you people upset with a coach here.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 10:10 am to
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And I hate saying this but Bama is the better program right now as well


I doubt that, given how you seem to never grow tired of pointing out it to LSU fans that have the audacity to think they have an great program.

Whether it's because you have extreme Bama envy, are just a troll that likes to smear you own team in order to rile up people on a message board or are just the latest in a long line of self loathing LSU fans that love to put down LSU, I don't know.

Saying Alabama is a better program than LSU is like arguing over who is the hottest chick in the swimsuit issue. It really doesn't matter. The fact that they have won more NC more recently doesn't mean they will going forward and it certainly doesn't mean a player is more likely to get to the NFL or be better prepared for the NFL. In short, Alabama offers nothing LSU can not, except to people like you that are more concerned with meaningless rankings like which coach ranks higher on a list.
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 10:22 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 10:12 am to
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Dude this is fricking St. Aug not some little piece of shite public school where the coaches dictate shite like that. Our kids families are heavily involved in this process so Holmes is a non factor. Period!


Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59106 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 10:19 am to
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I don't understand you people upset with a coach here.


if you don't understand why people would be upset with a coach allgedly steering kids away from the in state program to a division rival because that rival ranks as a "better" program according to a national poll than you are either the worst troll in TD history or completely devoid of any common sense.

The issue is not what is the "better" program at the moment. That's the trouble with judging everything based on the BCS CG. The difference between LSU and Alabama right now are marginal and not significant. This is not 1990 when going to Miami, Florida State, Michigan etc where significantly better options than LSU.
That is not the case any more. Why you can't see that is beyond belief.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 10:19 am to
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Poll the nation, you'll see who people perceive to be the better program


The nation believes bama AND lsu are the two top programs. And, it's a fact, not perception.

Your comments are so ignorant, it's not even funny. You really think a player who attends bama is better developed for the n.f.l. than lsu? The draft says no. The number of players from each school in the n.f.l. says no. therefore, the n.f.l. scouts, g.m's, and coaches say no. I guess bill b. doesn't like steven ridley because he isn't mark ingram. who's the better n.f.l. back?
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 10:51 am
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 10:23 am to
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just the latest in a long line of self loathing LSU fans that love to put down LSU.


I honestly don't understand these types of fans. The person you are responding to is definitely one of those people. I'm embarrassed for that completely shitty segment of the lsu fanbase. They are truly fricking awful fans.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93724 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 10:25 am to
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Poll the nation, you'll see who people perceive to be the better program.

And guess what, perception is reality.

I don't understand you people upset with a coach here.


I don't argue who is the better program right now. I'm not blind. To think that Alabama isn't elite or the top program at this point is ridiculous.

It's the constant and continuous slights that posters like yourself put on LSU as if they're some doormat and not an elite program. As if they were not in a National Championship game less than a year ago.

But to each their own. We know....with Les at the helm, LSU will never sniff another National Championship appearance/win as long as he's there. Of course, that's what everyone was saying in '08, '09, etc. etc.

But this is just beating a dead horse.
Posted by jdg91878
Do overs+Opinion poll politics =MNC
Member since Oct 2010
3742 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 10:53 am to
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And I hate saying this but Bama is the better program right now as well.



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Based on What.



He's trolling or basing it on illegitimate MNC, aka Popularity Contest. The bottom line is LSU and Bama have the same number of SEC titles since Saban has been at Bama. This is especially impressive if you consider Bama never plays Florida, Georgie, or USCe from the other side of the conference. Also, if LSU and Bama both win their bowl games, LSU is 35-5 the past 3 years and Bama would be 36-5. If you consider Bama should have never had a chance to get a rematch, then LSU at 36-4 >= Bama at 36-5.

You cannot define a program on a popularity contest and no playoff. The National Champ in CFB is NEVER played out on the field and is a glorified opinion poll.

Both are great programs; one just gets favorable treatment; from illegitmate rematches, to never holding, to soft conference scheduling. Bama is also may be perceived a better program only because the media shoves them down your throat. Educated people realize the truth stated above.

I also don't believe Crutchfield is steering anyone and from what I've read is being as fair as possible to LSU.
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 11:00 am
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12248 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 10:56 am to
If St Aug wants to diffentiate itself from (other) "little piece of shite public high schools", it doesn't hire coaches like DeCarlos Holmes.
These are the type people St Aug has chosen as its role models. Deal with it.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 10:57 am to
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I'll give them '09.


I wouldn't even give them that.

If McCoy doesn't go out in the 1Q, that's a completely different game.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 10:59 am to
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The fact that they have won more NC more recently doesn't mean they will going forward


Yup, they have 2 we have 2. After this year, they'll have 3. After next year, we'll have 3.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66446 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:01 am to
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if you don't understand why people would be upset with a coach allgedly steering kids away from the in state program to a division rival because that rival ranks as a "better" program according to a national poll than you are either the worst troll in TD history or completely devoid of any common sense.


Yeah, sorry for having the audacity to think a coach, looking out for the best interest of his player, would send that kid to the best coach in the country. The nerve of a coach looking out for the best interest of his kid instead of the best interest of LSU. What an a-hole!
Posted by jdg91878
Do overs+Opinion poll politics =MNC
Member since Oct 2010
3742 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:02 am to
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Yup, they have 2 we have 2. After this year, they'll have 3. After next year, we'll have 3.


Yeah, I don't gauge anything on BCS MNC after the horseshite of last year. The system is BROKEN and will always have controversy at the end of the year without a legitimate playoff.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93724 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:06 am to
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I wouldn't even give them that.

If McCoy doesn't go out in the 1Q, that's a completely different game.


Good point. forgot about that.

So, it's alright to say that Miles "got lucky" with his National Championship because he lost two games.

But Bama does it, and Saban and that program is head and shoulders above LSU.

'09 - Texas starting QB goes down in 1Q. Plays backup.
'11 - Mulligan handed to Bama by media
'12 - Tennessee, Mizzou, filled schedule and Ohio St. being on probation.


To be fair, if I were a Bama fan, I'd take it any way I can get it. But without being a hillbilly redneck, every one of their Championship appearances, there was something that fell their way.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53830 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:09 am to
George, do you not realize that everything that you're posting is your own, shitty opinion. You put it out there as if it's fact.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93724 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:09 am to
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looking out for the best interest of his player




His best interest? So, other than W's, what is his player going to get at Bama that he won't at LSU?

and LSU will get just as many as BAMA in the span that kid will be in college.

Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66446 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:32 am to
I'm sorry you're easily offended.

And Prom, I agree with what you said. But Crutch may feel differently.

The only thing I'm saying is that LSU fans are too easily offended. I don't think the guy is trying to purposefully frick over LSU. That's just dumb.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12248 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:33 am to
Yes, and DeCarlos Holmes was "looking after the best interest of his player", a DE prospect by sending him to the train-wreck-in-slow-motion that is Texas.
Truth is, he was simply (but conscientiously) steering him away from LSU, where he would have gotten quality PT with Mingo and Montgomery departing.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70381 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:37 am to
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I don't think the guy is trying to purposefully frick over LSU. That's just dumb.

DeCarlos Holmes is always trying to purposely frick over LSU, and there is nothing really in his work history to disprove that he is "just dumb." He was the guy that got all the South Plaq kids to Bastrop, and then got their titles voided.

He's also the guy that was pushing Rueben Randle to Oklahoma. He orchestrated the Torshiro Davis thing (with Bo Davis), which happened after he was fired from Davis' HS for beating a student. Also, even though he had left Bastrop, he was still acting as the intermediary in Denzel Devall's recruitment.

A HS coach I talked to that was on the staff at Bastrop with him said "he's pretty much the worst person I've ever met."
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