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WPBTiger 
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| AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 8:34 am)
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Tiger Ryno 
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 8:36 am to WPBTiger)
no crap. they want to make the game safer, get serious about banning steroids.
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SDVTiger 
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 8:39 am to Tiger Ryno)
Making the game safer by banning steriods? That makes no sense
PED's is what's keeping these guys alive for 16weeks
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Tiger Ryno
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 8:45 am to SDVTiger)
the reason they can't stay alive is they are bigger stronger and faster than humans are supposed to be.
Its BS. the colissions are far too violent because guys who would normally be 5'10" 185 and run 4.7 are now 5'10" 210 and run 4.5.
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usc6158 
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 8:47 am to WPBTiger)
The fact that football has basically been free of scrutiny or criticism on the steroid front is laughable
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SDVTiger
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 8:57 am to Tiger Ryno)
That's BS. Everyone in all sports are bigger and stronger than the past
People who make the claim that PEDs are so terrible are retarded like Marijuana is the gate way to hard drugs
We are the only country that thinks this
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Moustache 
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 8:59 am to usc6158)
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The fact that football has basically been free of scrutiny or criticism on the steroid front is laughable
baseball got fricked over big time on the steroid front.
I have no doubt in my mind that the NFL has about 80%-90% of it's players or more using compared to about 30-50% of MLB players.
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Moustache
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 9:00 am to SDVTiger)
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People who make the claim that PEDs are so terrible
People who deny the negative effects of steroids are fricking retarded.
Just look at the long list of wrestlers and NFL players who have died prematurely. Especially WWF/WWE since steroids are basically encouraged.
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usc6158
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 9:00 am to SDVTiger)
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People who make the claim that PEDs are so terrible are retarded like Marijuana is the gate way to hard drugs
We are the only country that thinks this
You must not follow international sports like cycling, tennis, and track at all. if anything, the US is incredibly lenient when it comes to PEDs, especially regarding punishment
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Tiger Ryno
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 9:03 am to SDVTiger)
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That's BS. Everyone in all sports are bigger and stronger than the past
because of PEDs for the large part. PEDs is widespread in High School sports now...I remember in college I lived and hung around all the ballplayers on an NAIA baseball team and there were maybe 1-2 guys on the team that weren't doing roids. one guy was bascially the Pipeline for the drugs. there was no doubt.
Football is probably the most saturated sport for PEDs outside of cycling
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Captain Ron 
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 9:03 am to Moustache)
I'm the strongest now at 41 than ever.
Do I do steroids? No.
Improved supplements/eating habits.
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Sophandros 
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 9:04 am to usc6158)
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The fact that football has basically been free of scrutiny or criticism on the steroid front is laughable
This.
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Tiger Ryno
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 9:05 am to Captain Ron)
yes but there is a limit to how strong you can be without the juice my friend. to deny that is foolish
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Sophandros
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 9:05 am to Captain Ron)
That's a cute little anecdote.
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Baloo
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 9:07 am to Moustache)
Actually, the NFL's problem is more than just PED's... it's painkillers. And we KNOW about that - it's above board. What those guys do their bodies is pretty horrifying.
I do think there's a big difference between steroid use and steroid abuse, which is the difference between most pro athletes and the WWE, which is like the wild west. I'm not sure steroids are that harmful when done under the supervision of trained medical staff and not abused. I think making the stuff legal but regulated would make it much safer.
And cycling isn't more dirty than other psorts, it just has better testing and a complate disregard for civil liberties of athletes. Which leads to more people being caught. So actually cracking down on drugs makes you seem dirtier. You can see the disincentive for leagues to crack down on PEDs by looking at cycling.
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SDVTiger
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 9:11 am to Moustache)
There's so many types of Steriods
The types the WWE retards take (the same types the Guidos Battling Dancing in the Clubs take) are not the same as what athletes are taking
People are ignorant to this fact
And you can get anabolic effects over the counter at GNC
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usc6158
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 9:13 am to Baloo)
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And cycling isn't more dirty than other psorts, it just has better testing and a complate disregard for civil liberties of athletes. Which leads to more people being caught. So actually cracking down on drugs makes you seem dirtier. You can see the disincentive for leagues to crack down on PEDs by looking at cycling.
I would argue that cycling was much more entertaining product during the doping era as well. Many more successful attacks and huge swings in performance by guys one day to another. Now the sport has basically become wheel sucking for 20 stages and a couple of time trials making the difference.
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 9:16 am to Moustache)
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People who deny the negative effects of steroids are fricking retarded.
Just look at the long list of wrestlers and NFL players who have died prematurely. Especially WWF/WWE since steroids are basically encouraged.
Have any of the American Gladiators dropped dead?
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Sophandros
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 9:18 am to Baloo)
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I do think there's a big difference between steroid use and steroid abuse, which is the difference between most pro athletes and the WWE, which is like the wild west. I'm not sure steroids are that harmful when done under the supervision of trained medical staff and not abused. I think making the stuff legal but regulated would make it much safer.
this has been my point of view for a long time now.
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BluegrassBelle 
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| re: AP IMPACT: Steroids loom in major-college football (Posted on 12/20/12 at 9:23 am to SDVTiger)
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And you can get anabolic effects over the counter at GNC
You can get a lot of things at GNC supplement wise that's on the NCAA banned substance list (just ask Kentucky's Jeremy Jarmon). Of course athletes will also use a lot of different products/supplements to mask steroid use.
That said, there's plenty of negative effects from steroids. All types. There's a reason they don't even want you taking steroids long-term for legitimate medical issues. But I agree that in a monitored setting it could be doable.
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