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re: So I'm watching ESPN U and Minnesota State's head coach was suspended previously
Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:49 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:49 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Why should he be punished? It is reasonable for him to consider it is illicit material, especially if the employee had never seen the coach's kids.
Kids dancing during a bubble bath? I don't know about you, but thinking that was child porn would never cross my mind.
I'm not saying he deserves to be punished, but I don't see how he would be able to work in the same department.
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:49 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Why should he be punished? It is reasonable for him to consider it is illicit material, especially if the employee had never seen the coach's kids.
This isn't the Sandusky scenario where McQuery (sic) should have gone to authorities. Kids in a bathtub is not the same as witnessing rape.
The employee should have gone to the Coach's supervisor.
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ETA: He also does not have a duty to achieve justice like the ADA does.
I have no idea of the relationship between the university employee and the coach to make this determination.
For the record, I'm not advocating for the employee to get canned but for them to "exercise common sense" in the future.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:50 pm to PortCityTiger24
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That he's a bitch.
I think that it says a lot more than that, if you think about it for a second...
Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:51 pm to PrimeTime Money
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An adult who calls this pornography sounds more like somebody who is projecting their own guilt that they feel and their own thoughts about naked children... because no rational person would ever think a parent taking video of their young child in in the bathtub is pornography. Perverts are the only ones who make that connection.
Exactly.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:58 pm to KosmoCramer
That's just downright horrible...
Someone definitely needs to be losing there job...unfortunately the damage is already done to the coach.
Someone definitely needs to be losing there job...unfortunately the damage is already done to the coach.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:04 pm to PortCityTiger24
It doesn't sound like it was during a bath. It sounds like it was after a bath.. maybe not even in the bathroom. Anyone would be concerned without knowing it was someone's children.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:05 pm to The Boat
Yeah, but you perform due diligence, realize that this was NOTHING and don't press charges against the guy.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:06 pm to Sophandros
I was just saying it would be dumb to punish the Univeristy employee. The ADA/police department is the culprit here.
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:08 pm to The Boat
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It doesn't sound like it was during a bath. It sounds like it was after a bath.. maybe not even in the bathroom. Anyone would be concerned without knowing it was someone's children.
Still should have initially been handled internally.
Hell, the employee HAD the phone. Scroll through other photos on the phone and compare it with a photo of the kids.
Anyways, the ADA should be disbarred or severely punished for trying to ruin the reputation of an innocent man.
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:22 pm to Golfer
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I have no idea of the relationship between the university employee and the coach to make this determination.
The university employee may have had a mistake, but I do not want to villify them. The university employee may not have been the sharpest tool in the shed or just saw naked children, immediately stopped the video, and reported it.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:25 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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The university employee may have had a mistake, but I do not want to villify them.
I don't want the employee vilified either. Move them to another department or something where they don't have to make decisions.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:30 pm to KosmoCramer
Prosecutors like that should be thrown in jail.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:31 pm to Golfer
school employee did the right thing IMO
its the DA that was the POS in this situation.
its the DA that was the POS in this situation.
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:40 pm to Dr RC
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school employee did the right thing IMO
Look, I'm not advocating that this is the school employee's fault. However, a little bit of internal review/discussion first might have mitigated a lot of the headache.
We also don't know how the employee reported the video. If the employee called the PD with a report of a video of a kid masturbating is a lot different than simply reporting a strange video.
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its the DA that was the POS in this situation.
Yes, the ADA was trying to make a name for themselves.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:42 pm to Golfer
I don't think you can fault the employee. Especially with everything that happened at Penn State, it's better to err on the side of caution.
BUT, the fact this was dragged out, he was CHARGED, etc. is where this is just terrible.
BUT, the fact this was dragged out, he was CHARGED, etc. is where this is just terrible.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:43 pm to KosmoCramer
Apparently the coach had problems with his work-issued cell phone, so he took it in to get fixed. That is where the employee found the video.
What I'm wondering is... why was the employee snooping through his videos and pictures anyway?
What I'm wondering is... why was the employee snooping through his videos and pictures anyway?
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:45 pm to PrimeTime Money
It was a school issued phone so I doubt there is a right to privacy there anyway.
I have no problem with what the employee did.
I have no problem with what the employee did.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 4:00 pm to PrimeTime Money
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I think there has been a hysteria created about child pornography, and now people think children being naked is pornography. Which is ridiculous. Almost every parent has pictures or video of their kids in the bathtub when they are little. An adult who calls this pornography sounds more like somebody who is projecting their own guilt that they feel and their own thoughts about naked children... because no rational person would ever think a parent taking video of their young child in in the bathtub is pornography. Perverts are the only ones who make that connection.
this x's a billion. i got lady friends on facebook who have similar pics of their little girls and it's no big deal whatsoever. you don't just look at it in that manner unless you are sick.. which is just sad for you.
what was once an accepted innocent silly thing that parents even use to embarrass you later in life now is being questioned because of a few perverts? sad.
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