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re: the lives of old country singers vs. the new breed around today

Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:36 am to
Posted by ArRazElle
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:36 am to
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Like I said...anyone can sing a song.

No, apparently, anyone cannot sing a song.

Charlie Robison's horrible voice destroyed Keith Gattis's El Cerrito Place. Due to Robison's flat, monotone, lack-of-range vocals, his version previously held a top 5 spot on the list, "how to screw up a beautiful song." The fact that anyone thinks he is a talented singer is LAUGHABLE. It took Kenny Chesney's knowledge of production and amazing voice to resurrect this incredible song and give it the soulful, haunting tone it was intended to have, and undo the damage Robison did to it.
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It's the lyrics, composition, production, and delivery that make it powerful.

FIFY


Eta: Although Charlie Robison recorded "El Cerrito Place," first, in 2004, Keith Gattis wrote the song. Gattis, obviously, disliked Robison's unfortunate, unsuccessful version because he put it on his second album, "Big City Blues" in 2005. This is what I mean when I say people should do the research before presenting something as fact.


This post was edited on 12/12/12 at 11:59 am
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:42 am to
Posted by ArRazElle
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 11:17 am to

Have you ever even been to a concert?!?!

It is extremely common for lead vocalists to be unplugged during certain songs at a live show. That's why KC has accomplished guitarists. Other times, he does plug in; you can even see the cords and everything! Kenny has never touted himself as a Brad Paisley or Keith Urban caliber guitarist. In fact, he gives them props for their awesome playing. But he sure as hell has the pipes and showmanship that out-do them all.

I suggest taking in a KC concert to see for yourself what all the millions who have seen him already know. Then maybe you'll understand what all the fuss is about.

I've discovered that most of the time, the people who do the majority of unfounded, baseless, petty bashing of others are the ones who are the most envious of them.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 11:41 am to
Never did I ever think I would come across a Kenny Chesneyite groupie.

You are the salt of the earth!
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 11:58 am to
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It is extremely common for lead vocalists to be unplugged during certain songs at a live show. That's why KC has accomplished guitarists. Other times, he does plug in; you can even see the cords and everything! Kenny has never touted himself as a Brad Paisley or Keith Urban caliber guitarist. In fact, he gives them props for their awesome playing. But he sure as hell has the pipes and showmanship that out-do them all.


Maybe it's common for embarrassments to the genre such as KC but the driving force behind the power of country music is the truths that it conveys. I like country because it's real music written and performed by real people who lived through the stories they tell.

There is nothing real about a man on stage rocking out on an unplugged guitar. If I wanted to see someone act I'd go watch a play.
Posted by ArRazElle
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 12:03 pm to
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Never did I ever think I would come across a Kenny Chesneyite groupie.

Apparently, you don't get out much. There are millions of us.

Eta: Had VIP passes & floor seats to Kenny's & Tim's concert this summer in Nashville @ Titan Stadium. AMAZING SHOW.
This post was edited on 12/12/12 at 12:08 pm
Posted by ArRazElle
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 12:39 pm to
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I like country because it's real music written and performed by real people who lived through the stories they tell.

So, you're saying that Kenny Chesney does not write music? It amazes me the number of people who make this incorrect assumption. Kenny Chesney has penned thousands of songs. He began his career as a contract songwriter in Nashville.

Does nobody care if the statements they make are blatantly false?

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embarrassments to the genre such as KC

Yeah, right.

Well, if it were not for him and some of his fellow "embarrassments," country music would not have near the following that it does today. Thank God he made it acceptable for other artists such as Dierks Bentley, Rascall Flatts, Zac Brown Band, Keith Urban, Billy Currington, Jason Aldean, and a slew of others to break out of the cookie-cutter George Strait and Merle Haggard molds and exert their own individual creativity to show that there is more to country music than wearing a white cowboy hat or being a scraggly, dirty outlaw. That schtick was getting waaayyy old.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 12:45 pm to
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cookie-cutter George Strait and Merle Haggard molds


Ok, you're either retarded or trolling
Posted by ArRazElle
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:15 pm to
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Ok, you're either retarded or trolling



Not saying Strait and Haggard aren't great, but there can only be one of each of them, just like there can only be one George Jones or Johnny Cash. Most artists who tried to copy them didn't have as successful of careers, and their music wasn't as good.

Country music can have more than just extremely traditional or outlaw sub-categories and still fall into the genre of country. Individual styles shouldn't be considered a bad thing.

It seems to me, country music fans would be happy about the fact that there are more people listening to the music and becoming familiar with all styles of it than ever before. I have never understood why traditional and outlaw country music fans dislike having a variety of country music styles which thereby creates a broader fan base. It's just very closed-minded and illogical to me, and obviously, I'm not alone in that way of thinking.
This post was edited on 12/12/12 at 1:20 pm
Posted by treble hook
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:19 pm to
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TheDoc


You a fan of Strait?
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:21 pm to
george straight was the man in his day, but his day has come and gone
Posted by ArRazElle
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:27 pm to
I agree, but he had quite run.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:29 pm to
They called it paying dues. Life was much harder then than it is today for a struggling musician.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:45 pm to
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It seems to me, country music fans would be happy about the fact that there are more people listening to the music and becoming familiar with all styles of it than ever before. I have never understood why traditional and outlaw country music fans dislike having a variety of country music styles which thereby creates a broader fan base. It's just very closed-minded and illogical to me, and obviously, I'm not alone in that way of thinking.



because the music being made now isn't country music. and more people being fans is pretty meaningless
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:47 pm to
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variety of country music styles


Such as Nashville pop. No thanks.

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Fan of strait


I respect what he's done, but his time has come and went.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:48 pm to
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because the music being made now isn't country music. and more people being fans is pretty meaningless


Nashville pop is not country music.

It's soccer mom pop shite written for demographics to sell.
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:49 pm to
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It's soccer mom pop shite written for demographics to sell.
17 year old boys who live in gated communities but drive 4x4's with super-swampers & glass packs
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:58 pm to
Ding ding ding
Posted by treble hook
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 2:03 pm to
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Nashville pop is not country music.


Then define country music.

The Outlaw stuff was alot different than what was being made in the 40s and 50s. Just like the late 80s and 90s were alot different than the 70s. Today's music is different than the 90s country. Which one is the REAL country music?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 2:04 pm to
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Which one is the REAL country music?


Music written by people that aren't multi millionaires for one...
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