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cfbfan#1
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| Butch jones ? (Posted on 12/8/12 at 12:37 pm)
My question is can someone explain how butch jones went 4-8 his first year after inheriting a 12-1 team
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SlowFlowPro 
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| re: Butch jones ? (Posted on 12/8/12 at 12:38 pm to cfbfan#1)
offensive-based team that lost its 2 best players on offense (QB/WR)
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| re: Butch jones ? (Posted on 12/8/12 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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offensive-based team that lost its 2 best players on offense (QB/WR)
This.
And Brian Kelly had a system that Jones didn't duplicate exactly. System players at Cincy.
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cfbfan#1
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Every team loses key players and shouldnt jones have adapted the system to the players especially considering how successfull Kelly was. Saban ran a 3-4 at bama when he got there cause it fit his players and he ran with it even though he had a four man front at lsu
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| re: Butch jones ? (Posted on 12/8/12 at 12:45 pm to cfbfan#1)
He bounced back the next year.
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cfbfan#1
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| re: Butch jones ? (Posted on 12/8/12 at 12:47 pm to Bellabama)
I know but his best year there was 3 losses, guys like Kelly, Meyer and sumlin mostly dominated their weaker conferences unlike jones
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Butch jones ? (Posted on 12/8/12 at 12:47 pm to cfbfan#1)
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Every team loses key players
small schools don't just re-load with great players
hell, LSU didn't reload after mauck left us in 2003 and miles took 4 fricking years to find a competent replacement QB after flynn
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shouldnt jones have adapted the system to the players
no
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Saban ran a 3-4 at bama when he got there cause it fit his players
he runs a 3-4 b/c he thinks it's superior. one of those things he picked up in the pros that has made him an even better CFB HC
saban also went 6-6 (including a loss to ULM) in bama's 1st year. how does THAT happen?
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Butch jones ? (Posted on 12/8/12 at 12:49 pm to cfbfan#1)
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guys like Kelly, Meyer and sumlin mostly dominated their weaker conferences unlike jones
kelly had that 1 great year and left before he had to rebuild
meyer and sumlin weren't in BCS conferences
sumlin went fricking 5-7 in a horrible conference in 2010 (because he lost his QB). houston was also somewhat loaded thanks to briles. kelly didn't leave cinci as stocked as dantonio left it for kelly
and in no way am i dismissing kelly
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| re: Butch jones ? (Posted on 12/8/12 at 12:51 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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kelly had that 1 great year
dude went 34-6 there, hardly would say that is just one great year.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Butch jones ? (Posted on 12/8/12 at 12:56 pm to rocket31)
he's talking about elite seasons, though. it's not like kelly was running through the big east undefeated every year
that's basically the standard he's judging jones by
This post was edited on 12/8 at 12:57 pm
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| re: Butch jones ? (Posted on 12/8/12 at 12:58 pm to SlowFlowPro)
shite man he won the big east twice, and had 10 wins and 9 wins the other two years; that is about as elite as it gets.
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| re: Butch jones ? (Posted on 12/8/12 at 2:59 pm to SlowFlowPro)
um he kindof did
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