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LSUTil_iDie
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Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


Jones was average at best in the Big East and I don't think he'll fare much better in the SEC. They probably would have been better off sticking with Dooley IMO. I could be wrong though. He might be the next Saban....

























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volfan30
Atlanta Braves Fan
Member since Jun 2010
26838 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


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They probably would have been better off sticking with Dooley IMO


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DrVinnyBoombatz
Texas Tech Fan
Lubbock
Member since Oct 2011
2972 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


Nah, they should have hired Butch Davis. He would of put together a top notch staff and recruited the shite out of the southeast. And he would've brought a defense back to them.





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VAvolfan
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Member since Feb 2010
922 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


Probably. Just don't know yet. Atleast he has a winning record as a head coach so I guess that could count as a step up from Dooley.





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BeachDude022
LSU Fan
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2006
23988 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


Honestly, i didn't even know who Butch Jones was until about 10 minutes ago.





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mattz1122
Houston Fan
Member since Oct 2007
29122 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


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Jones was average at best in the Big East



How do you define average?






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Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
2101 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


Dooley had utterly lost this team, and the defense was a damn high school musical. Just mention that to say that Jones (in the short run) is a default step up-not a Strong or Patterson step up, but not lateral imo.





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c on z
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Mar 2009
62606 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


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They probably would have been better off sticking with Dooley IMO


I would love this idea.






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Crompdaddy8
Tennessee Fan
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


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Jones was average at best in the Big East


I think average at best describes Les Miles in the Big 12. finished 5th,4th,3rd,5th in the conference in his 4 years. never came close to winning a Big 12 title.


- 2011, 2012 back-to-back Big East Coach of the year
- 2011, 2012 back-to-back Big East conference titles
- 2-1 against Charlie Strong
- won 4 conference titles in 6 years. 1 last minute play away from winning 5 conference titles in 6 years
- #1 scoring offense and #1 scoring defense in the Big East this year. 12th in the nation in scoring D






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Marty McFrat
UCLA Fan
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Feb 2011
14038 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


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- 2011, 2012 back-to-back Big East Coach of the year
- 2011, 2012 back-to-back Big East conference titles
- 2-1 against Charlie Strong
- won 4 conference titles in 6 years. 1 last minute play away from winning 5 conference titles in 6 years
- #1 scoring offense and #1 scoring defense in the Big East this year. 12th in the nation in scoring D




No UT fan can bash Bielema now.






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UT2012
Tennessee Fan
Rocky Top
Member since Sep 2009
167 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


Criticize Butch all you want but don't put him in the same category as Dooley. Dooley was 16-20 in the WAC. He had never been a coordinator. His players disliked him and a lot of them didn't respect him.

Compare Dooley talking about how difficult it was going to be for three years and still trying to get his guys to play hard for sixty minutes in his third year to what Butch said today. Butch basically said our intention is to contend and that's what we plan to do every year. Is he going to do it next year? No. But he makes it clear right from the start that just dicking around isn't going to cut it anymore.

I honestly believe, and this isn't hyperbole, that Derek Dooley was the single worst hire in the history of the SEC. Completely over his head in every way. His major claim to fame was being a recruiting coordinator for Saban yet we are literally recruiting better with no head coach than we did with him. There are tons of kids considering us now who wanted no part of that joker. Read this:

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He's a buffoon.






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UTVols2618
Tennessee Fan
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
762 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


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No UT fan can bash Bielema now.


The biggest problem with Bielema is his hatred for Sec style recruiting and recruiting in general.

Ut fans can at least hope Jones will be a good recruiter, you only have to be average to bring in a top 20 class at UT. There is no hope for recruiting with Bielema which is the most important thing in the SEC. I think Beilema and Arky is a bad fit. Jones and UT may be too, but there is at least hope it isn't.






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Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


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the single worst hire in the history of the SEC.




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He's a buffoon.


AGAIN






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allin2010
Auburn Fan
Jerry World
Member since Aug 2011
7514 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


I think you are correct in that Dooley was at best the worse UT hire ever. I tried to think of a worse SEC hire and I got nothing.





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Dalosaqy
LSU Fan
Hodor
Member since Dec 2007
4860 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


No. Solid hire.





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dagrippa
LSU Fan
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
1459 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


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I honestly believe, and this isn't hyperbole, that Derek Dooley was the single worst hire in the history of the SEC.


I realize its your opinion but its so wrong I had to log in and comment on it. You haven't been watching for very long obviously.

I could argue that Kiffin might have actually been worse than Doley what with the damage he brought to UT.






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20MuleTeam
LSU Fan
West Hartford
Member since Sep 2012
1507 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


No but the coach that mover to Arkansas that was a lateral move





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windhammontanatigers
LSU Fan
windham-stanford, montana
Member since Nov 2009
3511 posts

re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


He may not be the next Saban, but I believe it was a solid hire by Tenny. I actually think that in about 3 years, Tenny will be back in the SEC championship game on the East side. I think after all they had been through , a good hire. Much better than Dooley imo.





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kywildcatfanone
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Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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re: Anybody else think the UT hire was a sideways move?


Sideways for who, UT or Jones?





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