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Heisman Race
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:21 am
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:21 am
Why does Manti Te'o deserve the consideration for the heisman? He's stats are ok(interceptions are pretty good)Is it because he's on "Gods Team" OR that ESPN is constantly promoting him for the Notre Dame fanbase? I just dont see how he fits in to the heisman race. He is by no stretch the most outstanding player in college football.
This post was edited on 12/6/12 at 12:29 am
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:25 am to FunroePete
Best player on the #1 team + 7 ints
SEC fans downplay the interception total like its normal. But how many college linebackers have had 7 ints? I would think its quite rare
SEC fans downplay the interception total like its normal. But how many college linebackers have had 7 ints? I would think its quite rare
This post was edited on 12/6/12 at 12:28 am
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:26 am to FunroePete
It will be a damn shame if JFF doesn't run away with it.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:36 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Manti Te'O 2012
Stats... 103 tackles, 52 solo, 51 assts...TFL,5.5...Sacks 1.5... Int's, 7...Fumble recovery, 1...
Heisman finalist...
Tony Taylor UGA LB, 2006
stats... 96 tackles, 65 solo, 31 assts...TFL, 7.5... Sacks 3... Int's 7... Fumble recovery, 3...
Second Team ALL-SEC...
It's a individual award not a team award.
It didn't matter that Baylor had 3 loses last year. It shouldn't matter ND is undefeated this year
Manti Te'O 2012
Stats... 103 tackles, 52 solo, 51 assts...TFL,5.5...Sacks 1.5... Int's, 7...Fumble recovery, 1...
Heisman finalist...
Tony Taylor UGA LB, 2006
stats... 96 tackles, 65 solo, 31 assts...TFL, 7.5... Sacks 3... Int's 7... Fumble recovery, 3...
Second Team ALL-SEC...
It's a individual award not a team award.
It didn't matter that Baylor had 3 loses last year. It shouldn't matter ND is undefeated this year
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:37 am to VerlanderBEAST
He's tfl's and sack are horrible for the best linebacker on the best team
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:39 am to VerlanderBEAST
You also have yo ask how a middle lb got 7 picks either he's physic or out of position a whole lot of the time
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:41 am to VerlanderBEAST
All I want is a legitimate argument.
The number 1 player on the #1 team plus 7ints just isn't enough to be considered the best player in CFB
The number 1 player on the #1 team plus 7ints just isn't enough to be considered the best player in CFB
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:46 am to Patton
I agree and not just because i'm an Aggie fan Manti is a good lb not a great lb and would only play in situational defenses in the SEC
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:46 am to Patton
JFF should clearly win it. Anyone else gets it is a fricking sham. That said, just looked at the season stats... only LSU held JFF to 0 passing TDs and 0 rushing TDs 
MORAL VICTORY
MORAL VICTORY
This post was edited on 12/6/12 at 12:50 am
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:48 am to Elleshoe
I've also heard alot that you cant use stats to describe how good of a player he is.
Biggest horse shite I've ever heard
Biggest horse shite I've ever heard
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:51 am to FunroePete
Every Heisman winner since I have been following CFB has that signature play/highlight that stands out in my head from their season.
For Te'o advocates - what would you submit as the signature play/highlight from the 2012 season that symbolizes his season?
For Te'o advocates - what would you submit as the signature play/highlight from the 2012 season that symbolizes his season?
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:52 am to UncleLester
he had an int against a 5 loss usc team 
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:53 am to FunroePete
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He's tfl's and sack are horrible for the best linebacker on the best team
What a dumb thing to say
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:54 am to Patton
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Sacks 1.5
Kevin Minter has more sacks on back to back plays against Florida than this joke has in his whole season.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:56 am to VerlanderBEAST
Is there anything you can say that can give his Heisman campaign some legitimacy?
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:59 am to VerlanderBEAST
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What a dumb thing to say
You think those two stats are not horrible? How are they not anything more than pathetic if you want to liken him to a legitimate Heisman candidate?
He has ONE AND A HALF sacks on the year. That's fricking awful for any linebacker that has played 12 games this year.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:00 am to VerlanderBEAST
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But how many college linebackers have had 7 ints? I would think its quite rare
most LB INTs since 2004
2011 - Phillip Steward - Houston - 6
2010 - Evan Harris - Miami Ohio - 6
2009 - Sam Maxwell - Kentucky - 6
2008 - Mark Herzlich - Boston College - 6
Joe Pawelek - Baylor - 6
2007 - Craig Robertson - North Texas - 5
2006 - Tony Taylor - Georgia - 7
2005 - Garland Heath - NC State - 5
Clint Ingram - Oklahoma - 5
Caleb Campbell - Army - 5
Daniel Holtzclaw - Eastern Michigan - 5
2004 - Matt Grootegoed - Southern Cal - 5
LINK
and if you want another LB to compare
1998 Dat Nguyen on 1998 TAMU, won Big 12 title, beat #1 KSU and #2 Nebraska, finished 11-2 in reg season and #6 in BCS
147 tackles
20 tackles for loss
4 sacks
4 INTs
4 forced fumbles
1 TD
no NYC invite
Te'o's 2012 stats:
103 tackles
5.5 tackles for loss
2 sacks
7 INTs
0 forced fumbles
0 TDs
This post was edited on 12/6/12 at 1:24 am
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:08 am to Dr RC
Jarvis Jones blows this kid out of the water.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:15 am to LSU=Champions
Derrick Thomas blows them both out of the water and the best he did was 10th
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:16 am to Agforlife
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and would only play in situational defenses in the SEC
What?
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