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re: Les vs Bielema

Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:17 pm to
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:17 pm to
Les Miles is far and away a better coach then Bielema.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
23177 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:19 pm to
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He is 68-24 in 7 years. Nothing wrong with those numbers.


Unless you are Les Miles, then you are the worst coach to ever take the field.
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5472 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 2:19 am to
Apparently so.
Posted by LSUfaSho
Austin
Member since Oct 2008
88 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:40 am to
I really hate Paul Pierce.
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5131 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:51 am to
quote:

I think it was a good hire for Arkansas


He was about their 10th choice
Posted by Dirty Pierre
West Chimes St
Member since Sep 2011
745 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:20 am to
quote:

He was about their 10th choice


But Arkansas Fans are Ecstatic!
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:00 am to
As far as coaching goes, I find them quite similar in style offensively. Both rely on a solid running attack that places execution ahead of deception. So both require superior offensive line play for offensive success. The passing attack is most successful when it takes advantage of play action passes set up by the running game.

Defensively, it is hard to make a comparison as Miles has clearly had better athletes to deploy than Bielema. Wisconsin was generally solid against the run, but susceptible to being outrun by speedy backs and receivers.

Bielema will have to step up his game as a recruiter if he wants to beat Miles and LSU. He will need to improve the quality and depth of the OL and DL to do so. The players he needs are out there. He just has to prove that he can recruit them with the big boys.
Posted by EastcoastPnG
Myrtle Beach, SC
Member since Oct 2011
66 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:04 am to
Look, first of all, at a quick glance, Les is a better coach and all around better program manager. Now, as far as the hire, my feeling is that there's more to filling this opening than just hiring a good coach. Theior guy needs to right the ship and the perception about Arkansas is that their program is sleazy because of the lingering Petrino issues. So, Bielema comes in with his good attitude, clean program, Mr. nice guy perception and immediately changes the look of Arkansas for the better. I don't know alot about the guy, I'm just saying what it looks like. So good for Arkansas, they may be turning the corner here, but, they still have a lot of work to do.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:08 am to
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that dude is a buffoon.

With Bielema's record at Wisconsin, calling him a buffoon would be like LSU fans calling Miles one. . . Oh, wait. . .
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5472 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:11 am to
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Unless you are Les Miles, then you are the worst coach to ever take the field.

Isn't he the worst coach every Sunday after a loss? But now put him up against Bielema and he can never lose.
Posted by TigerDice
Canton, OH
Member since Nov 2012
258 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:22 am to
Bielema took the Arkansas job for the money and the fact that Texas is a boarder state.

He must be planning to recruit Texas as hard as Saban recurited Louisiana.

He obviously has his work cut out for him, but with A&M in the SEC, recruiting Texas should get easier for both Arkansas and LSU.

This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 8:43 am
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5472 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:35 am to
Don't forget he has the ability to get some talent from the north too. There is always surplus athletes to come out of the south so he will get his fair share. Arkansas is a school that needs to be able to recruit somewhat nationally without much of a built in recruiting base. If he can manage to pick up some sleepers from the southern states and snag a few guys from the north he is in pretty good position.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:57 am to
Excellent hire.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:26 am to
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Don't forget he has the ability to get some talent from the north too. There is always surplus athletes to come out of the south so he will get his fair share. Arkansas is a school that needs to be able to recruit somewhat nationally without much of a built in recruiting base. If he can manage to pick up some sleepers from the southern states and snag a few guys from the north he is in pretty good position.


unfortunately for Arkansas...he's a worse recruiter than Petrino
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:29 am to
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As far as coaching goes, I find them quite similar in style offensively. Both rely on a solid running attack that places execution ahead of deception. So both require superior offensive line play for offensive success. The passing attack is most successful when it takes advantage of play action passes set up by the running game.


this is essentially correct. almost mirror images.

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Defensively, it is hard to make a comparison as Miles has clearly had better athletes to deploy than Bielema. Wisconsin was generally solid against the run, but susceptible to being outrun by speedy backs and receivers.


you mean like Yeldon and Amari Cooper? just sayn.

quote:

Bielema will have to step up his game as a recruiter if he wants to beat Miles and LSU. He will need to improve the quality and depth of the OL and DL to do so. The players he needs are out there. He just has to prove that he can recruit them with the big boys.


this....bigtime. ar-kansas has always had very solid olines and I only see them getting stronger with this +hire. the twits and twats on this board wouldn't know good coaching if they saw it...if ya get my drift.

solid post.

beat clempson.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:34 am to
he racked up wins agains shitty opponents with Russell Wilson and Montee Ball. There is nothing you can show me that would make me think this was a great hire. And don't give me this "3rd straight Rose Bowl" bullshite. Wisconsin finished 6th in the shitty Big 10 and 3rd in their division this year.
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5472 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:37 am to
Don't think him being identical styles to Les is by accident. It almost appears looking at the attempt to Les Miles, Arkansas knew what they wanted in a head coach and what they wanted to run. It was a matter of finding someone to go there and take the job.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:42 am to
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what has he won?


more than petrino.
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5472 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:08 am to
But he coached in the Big 10, it isn't like a great coach in the SEC has ever come from there. Wait a minute.... I think I know of a guy from Michigan State, I can't get his name out.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:15 am to
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But he coached in the Big 10, it isn't like a great coach in the SEC has ever come from there. Wait a minute.... I think I know of a guy from Michigan State, I can't get his name out.


Beilema is just an awkward fit at Arkansas. It's strange to see him go there after hearing his disdain for SEC football along with its recruiting practices.
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