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Somebody talk me out of Alcoa

Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:04 am
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:04 am
At 8.40 what could possibly be the danger in 1000 shares?
Posted by Franktowntiger7
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2010
2719 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:22 am to
Don't do it. Your welcome
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:52 am to
The danger is that it might go down.

OTOH, it might go up.

The price per share is not a reliable guide to which will occur, or when. Hell, it could go down to 5, you sell in disgust, then it goes up to 15.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5592 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 9:07 am to
It's a company that has -$244M available to common shareholders, a profit margin of -1.02%, and will be making several billions of dollars in injections to its pension plan the next several years.

Plus the CEO's name is Klaus. That just reminds me of Hans from Die Hard, and he was the bad guy.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126935 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 9:41 am to
AA won't move up much until the worldwide glut of aluminum is absorbed which is not forecast to happen for several years.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 11:04 am to
But ... but ... the price is low!
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7915 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

It's a company that has -$244M available to common shareholders, a profit margin of -1.02%, and will be making several billions of dollars in injections to its pension plan the next several years.


This. Alcoa is a giant POS. It underperforms pretty often come earinings time.

quote:

Plus the CEO's name is Klaus. That just reminds me of Hans from Die Hard, and he was the bad guy.

Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/30/12 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

But ... but ... the price is low!



You sound like this guy I see in the mirror everyday.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 7:40 pm to
No offense meant - it's just that I learned that lesson early. Bought stock in a company that had been around 30 but fell back to 5, which is where I bought 500 shares.

I also happen to work at said company and things looked they were getting better.

They liquidated two years later. All I got out of it was $30 from a class action lawsuit brought by the vultures that circle in these situations.
Posted by jso0003
Member since Jun 2009
5170 posts
Posted on 12/2/12 at 11:26 am to
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I also happen to work at said company and things looked they were getting better.


This is why you shouldn't invest in your own employer... they're already responsible for your paycheck, diversify.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:16 pm to
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This is why you shouldn't invest in your own employer... they're already responsible for your paycheck, diversify.


Normally I completely agree, as I implied I learned a lesson.

Fortunately it was early in my career and not much was at stake.
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