Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect | TigerDroppings.com

Posted byMessage
secman12
LSU Fan
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2011
1102 posts

Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


Look, before you start flaming let me say I 100% agree our Defense is the strength of the team and has been for some years, however, I strongly feel the D gets too much credit and the O too little by many of you..a few facts to consider from past 3 years where we are 34-5

Defense failed to stop Bama on last drive this year after O gave us 4 pt lead (should have been more, but give up 6 so easy was on the D)

Wihtout O and special teams we lose to UM this year...easy to see

Ark loss in 10 was at least 50% due to D breakdowns, incl 80 yard pass before half
Aub loss in 2010 we gave up 450+ yards and 65 yard run in 4th q when we were tied
UF loss this year on O or course
NC game on O, but D gave up tons of yards, special teams also failed us

Wihtout strong O we maybe lose to WVU and Oregon in 2011, UNC, UF, UM and A&M in 10...sure our offense is the relative weak spot, but the D shares in some of the biggest losses and near losses...







Back to top
Share:
Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
550 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


D did not fail you against Bama! your coach did!






Back to top
TigerDat
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2010
1311 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


quote:

Posted by Message Uncs Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect D did not fail you against Bama! your coach did!


Ehh yea bad coaching decisions, but for one of the top Defenses in the country they let down the team. They needed one stop and couldn't do it.






Back to top
secman12
LSU Fan
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2011
1102 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


D did not fail you against Bama! your coach did!

wow, have to disagree, do you not give Les any credit for a 4 point lead over #1 team with 1:30 left in the game, so he gets no credit for first 58:30, but all blame for last 1:30? BTW which Coach, Chavis is in charge of the defense, or again is that only true when they play well?







Back to top
nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
2728 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


Four of our last seven opponents outgained us in total yardage.
Without four or five turnovers, we lose to TAMU.
MSU going for tying score when we intercept aned return for 100 yds.
OBJ can be thanked for an 89 yd awesome PR to bail us out against OM.
Jarvis Landry catch-of - the -year ditto against Arky.
' We're 10-2 but good fortune helped at the end (yes, Bad fortune cost us several players, too).






Back to top
Jet12
LSU Fan
Member since Nov 2010
19312 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


quote:

D did not fail you against Bama! your coach did!


Yes, like Les Miles himself was on the field and let AJ McCarron throw the ball all day.






Back to top
  Replies (0)
smash williams
LSU Fan
San Diego via Marksville
Member since Apr 2009
6590 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


I completely disagree about the bama game. ST's, lack of red zone eff, failed 4th and 1 conversion. That being said, both sides played extremely well.





Back to top
DrEdgeLSU
LSU Fan
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2006
5972 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


quote:

MSU going for tying score when we intercept aned return for 100 yds.




LSU was up 30-17 when that happened, with 1:13 left in the game.






Back to top
cajunjj
LSU Fan
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7013 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


U can play it any way u want but Chavis lost the bama game, pure & simple!!! & the defense has not played well since.





Back to top
TDTGodfather
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
5518 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


quote:

D did not fail you against Bama! your coach did!

this is complete horse shite.

if miles coached the D, everyone would jump on the D for dropping the game. bottom line was, the D makes the stop, we win the game. plenty of blame to go around the whole game, but the D players and chavis definitely deserve some for the last drive.








Back to top
  Replies (0)
Mudminnow
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2004
28637 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


The scheme has got to change for LSU on defense.





Back to top
  Replies (0)
Penrod
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2011
3779 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


quote:

Without four or five turnovers, we lose to TAMU.


Silly stuff! We'll get at least three turnovers from TAMU next year too. That style of offense always racks up yards against us and turns it over a lot. It's not luck. It's by design

quote:

MSU going for tying score when we intercept and return for 100 yds.


bullshite! Tigers were up by 13 when Miss State was driving and Loston intercepted.

quote:

OBJ can be thanked for an 89 yd awesome PR to bail us out against OM.


So what? Lot's of people can be thanked. It was a play in the game. Les puts a lot of work into ST. It paid off. Great coaching!






Back to top
nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
2728 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


It's not luck...it's by design...







Back to top
  Replies (0)
smash williams
LSU Fan
San Diego via Marksville
Member since Apr 2009
6590 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


You probably put the loss to UF on the D also. Red zone eff on Offense is the key factor that held this team back. JMO though.





Back to top
  Replies (0)
Ricky_
Arkansas Fan
Tallahassee
Member since Nov 2012
341 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


Coaching failed us against Bama. I love Miles but sometimes it feels like he and his staff aren't even trying to win.


This post was edited on 11/26 at 12:37 pm


Back to top
nf
LSU Fan
Portland, OR
Member since Oct 2012
452 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


The defense gave up 21 points against Bama. Yea, they gave them up in stupid ways, but giving up 21 points to the #1 team in the country isn't too bad. The problem is that the offense can't be counted on to put up 21 points in any game.

The offense put up a ton of yards against Bama but could not translate them into points. If we could convert in the red zone the defense would have been in a position to lose on a last minute TD.

If you're counting on your defense to hold every team to 14 points then you're going to be disappointed. Your offense NEEDS to be able to put up points consistently. 17 points a game isn't going to cut it.






Back to top
mmcgrath
LSU Fan
New Jersey
Member since Feb 2010
4363 posts
 Online 

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


quote:

If you're counting on your defense to hold every team to 14 points then you're going to be disappointed. Your offense NEEDS to be able to put up points consistently. 17 points a game isn't going to cut it.


This. The defense rocks.






Back to top
secman12
LSU Fan
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2011
1102 posts

re: Facts, Off. saved us vs UM, the D failed us vs Bama, give O "some" respect


You probably put the loss to UF on the D also.

no, I did not, and again, not saying D is not a strength for us-it is, just saying that the O is not as bad as many say, we would be in SECCG and one win from NC vs. ND if the defense had held Ala instead of giving up a TD in 1 minute on 5 plays, blown assigments to boot, even OT we may have won....






Back to top
  Replies (0)


Back to top