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2 things: I enjoyed John Carter ... Wish Disney would make a Sequel

Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:12 am
Posted by LaBornNRaised
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:12 am
I know I am probably going to get slammed for my feelings on this movie but I watch movies to be entertained. Don't really care to critique them unless it is over the top bad.

The movie def had some weird ... Okay what moments ... But overall I liked it. I would definitely go see a J.C. 2 in theatres. Anybody else feel this way?


BTW, I just saw it for the first time hence my late posting about it.

Posted by Murray
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:20 am to
I just watched it for the first time last weekend too and thought it was worth my time. I don't think Disney promoted this well because I don't see why it flopped like it did. Not saying it was Pirates good but it wasn't that bad.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:39 am to
I spent money to watch it on demand. I don't regret that decision. I thought it was a decently fun movie.
Posted by Smokedawg
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 7:02 am to
quote:

don't think Disney promoted this well because I don't see why it flopped like it did.

This, Me an my wife enjoyed it alot. But the marketing of it was bad.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 7:04 am to
It was a great movie, a lot of sci-fi concepts came from the precedence set in john carter back in the day.. you shouldn't find too many people against the movie on the board.
Posted by polizei11
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 7:56 am to
I liked it when I saw it in theaters. I'm not sure why it flopped either.

Also, the princess was smoking hot.
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 8:00 am to
Like it


Not sure if the timing of the release (March 9) had anything to do with the failure, but I remember seeing a preview around the Super Bowl last year and was excited to see it. Worth watching. I agree - wish they would make a sequel.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 8:32 am to
quote:

I know I am probably going to get slammed for my feelings on this movie but I watch movies to be entertained. Don't really care to critique them unless it is over the top bad.





Agree 100%
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 8:37 am to
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But overall I liked it.


Just watched on cable with my boys the other day...yeah, it was alright. I think one of the major issues was that it seemed to take FOREVER to get the story moving...must have been nearly 30 minutes before Carter got to Mars. And for a movie that ran 2:15 there seemed to be a ton of stuff that was just never explained well.

And the princess was unbelievably hot...

Posted by hiltacular
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 8:38 am to
I enjoyed the movie as well. It did have a really bad marketing campaign tho, I remember thinking to myself how bizarre it looked.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 9:09 am to
I've said it in other threads about this movie:

Disney cannot plaster its brand on something and expect it to lend credence to the movie. If the movie is to be sci-fi, PG-13, and have a bunch of action in it, Disney should keep its name away from the opening of the trailer. It makes it seem like it will be a kids movie.

In the case of John Carter, my understanding is that it's kind of like Pirates in that it should have universal appeal. The problem is: if you make it seem like a kids movie, the adults don't want to see it, so you better capture the younger audience; but if you advertise with a depressing song about your body being a cage, you aren't going to capture the younger audience. So you lose both audiences immediately. Stupid.
Posted by LaBornNRaised
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 9:16 am to
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LoveThatMoney


I definitely see what you are saying and how that might have affected it.


I agree with what everyone in here is saying. The movie did take a while to get me into it but once it did I was hooked. They could have cut a good 20-25 mins out the movie also or used that time to build a better foundation for the story.

As for me wanting a sequel, somebody pointed to it earlier. They can go so much more in depth on pretty much every angle. From the therns to (don't want to give spoilers) the aftermath.
This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 9:18 am
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 9:23 am to
I like what everyone's opinion in here is.

The movie actually made me want to read Burrough's work! So I bought the first book of his John Carter series...or is it Mars series?
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 9:39 am to
quote:

I've said it in other threads about this movie:

Disney cannot plaster its brand on something and expect it to lend credence to the movie. If the movie is to be sci-fi, PG-13, and have a bunch of action in it, Disney should keep its name away from the opening of the trailer. It makes it seem like it will be a kids movie.

In the case of John Carter, my understanding is that it's kind of like Pirates in that it should have universal appeal. The problem is: if you make it seem like a kids movie, the adults don't want to see it, so you better capture the younger audience; but if you advertise with a depressing song about your body being a cage, you aren't going to capture the younger audience. So you lose both audiences immediately. Stupid.


Which is why the name of the movie should have been named "Barsoom" "The Princess of Mars" or "The Gods of Mars".. or something along those lines.. oh well, hind sight is 20/20.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 9:41 am to
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or is it Mars series?


Barsoom Series
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 9:58 am to
The fact that they didn't call it "John Carter of Mars" or "A Princess of Mars" was the first problem marketingwise. It would have been like calling "Dr. No" "Jame Bond" in 1962 or calling "Star Wars" "The Adventures of Luke Starkiller."

If you are going to make a sci-fi flick about a war on Mars, having said planet in the title would help.

The second problem is with the initial reviewers..."It's like xxxx meets xxxx," or "It was just like xxxx."

Problem here is that this series was ahead of its time. Many people took from it, and John Carter was made to seem like a rip-off by the reviewers, instead of the granddaddy of them all.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:31 am to
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The fact that they didn't call it "John Carter of Mars" or "A Princess of Mars" was the first problem marketingwise. It would have been like calling "Dr. No" "Jame Bond" in 1962 or calling "Star Wars" "The Adventures of Luke Starkiller."

If you are going to make a sci-fi flick about a war on Mars, having said planet in the title would help.

The second problem is with the initial reviewers..."It's like xxxx meets xxxx," or "It was just like xxxx."

Problem here is that this series was ahead of its time. Many people took from it, and John Carter was made to seem like a rip-off by the reviewers, instead of the granddaddy of them all.


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This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 10:32 am
Posted by brmark70816
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:48 am to
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And the princess was unbelievably hot...


You should see her in True Blood.. she gets naked..
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Problem here is that this series was ahead of its time. Many people took from it, and John Carter was made to seem like a rip-off by the reviewers, instead of the granddaddy of them all.


Which is why the opening of the trailer should not have been the Disney logo, but a phrase like "From one of the greatest literary minds of a generation" or "Based on the beloved novels" or "From the writer of Tarzan of the Jungle" or whatever. One of those or a phrase similar should have at least been placed somewhere. THAT would give credence to the movie.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:09 am to
quote:

I know I am probably going to get slammed for my feelings on this movie but I watch movies to be entertained. Don't really care to critique them unless it is over the top bad.


Not slammed at all, the movie was great.
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