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Geauxrilla Ballz
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Israel needs to kill every Arab living in Gaza. Then (at last) we shall have peace.


Kill every Arab in Gaza and there will be peace?

With that mentality, please explain to me the difference between YOU and Hitler?






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RollTide1987
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It's discouraging, but you never know when someone might listen. Just like Bin Laden wanted the world to be against Islam - the weak minded fall right into his trap. It's no different with Zionists wanting the world to think criticism of Israel is Anti-Jew.



I couldn't care less about Israel being filled with Jews. They could be filled with Muslims and I'd still support their right to exist. But, let's be honest, if these were Muslims there would be no issue between Israel and the Palestinians.

The fact of the matter is this: Israel is an ally of the United States and therefore a friend. Hamas is a terrorist organization who believes Israel has no right to exist. So long as they stand against Israel they stand against me. Until they make peace and put down their arms I will pray for their death as well as the death of their families. Unless they make peace I will be content with Israel killing them all.







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RollTide1987
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With that mentality, please explain to me the difference between YOU and Hitler?



I don't view the Arabs as an inferior race. I just view them as my enemy. My hatred for them goes beyond the Israelis. Like you...I know people (people close to me) who have suffered and died as a result of the wars in the Middle East.






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SammyTiger
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I doubt it most of them are pussies and would be glad to go away if the chosen people decided they wanted their land. Can't upset jesus he loves Zionism.


So, I am a pussy I think firing rockets into civilian centers is wrong? Or that firing rockets from civilian centers will only bring retaliation on my own people and innocents, I am a pussy?






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NC_Tigah
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Perhaps so, but of the two, only animals endanger their own school children by launching rockets from schoolyard playgrounds.
Nearly 1,500 Palestinian children have been shot dead since 2000.
No kidding. That is obviously going to happen when Hamas uses them as human shields
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Google search will render plenty of pictures of slaughtered Palestinian children.
Like this one?







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Geauxrilla Ballz
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I don't view the Arabs as an inferior race. I just view them as my enemy. My hatred for them goes beyond the Israelis. Like you...I know people (people close to me) who have suffered and died as a result of the wars in the Middle East.


I can understand that - really. It shouldn't be that way, and it doesn't have to. Our country stands for something. We support Israel for interests, and it is NOT a democracy like we enjoy (actually, a Republic).

Look, I don't hate Jews. I respect the faith, and consider many my close friends. When I go to Israel with my father, I see the way his old friends love him (Jewish friends who helped him and worked with him at the Jerusalem YMCA and where he taught at the Hebrew University). Racism and hate is such a noxious waste of life - and so easy to fall into.

If my speaking on this board (as I have really done a lot of the past couple of days) has any effect - I wouldn't want it to be me turning people into critics of Israel or the Zionist machine. I would hope that I could make people think, and realize that even though there is a contingent of Palestinians who fall to violent organizations - there is real suffering in the Occupied Territories and a lack of justice. Our country should NOT be in this situation.

We are the Land of the Free - our people die and have died ensuring this fact. Why don't we promote it in other lands 100% of the time.






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Porky
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So, I am a pussy I think firing rockets into civilian centers is wrong? Or that firing rockets from civilian centers will only bring retaliation on my own people and innocents, I am a pussy?

Both sides in this conflict have done cruel things at one time or another. It just needs to stop and who knows how that will ever be accomplished, short of the ancient aliens referred to on the history channel returning and implanting peace chips within their brains.

...or divine intervention. The fighting will never solve it.



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Poodlebrain
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Among the casualties announced for those in Gaza the kill rate has been over two Hamas militants for every civilian. It is the proximity to Hamas militants that is dangerous for Palestinian civilians. Your brave resistance members hiding behind their women and children should be what outrages you, not the unfortunate civilian casualties when the Israelis target the militants.





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Ace Midnight
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You mean "rocketing" average, I'm sure - but I won't quibble.





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NC_Tigah
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there is real suffering in the Occupied Territories and a lack of justice. Our country should NOT be in this situation.
Nor should Israel. What role did Egypt, Syria, Jordan and others play in the Palestinians circumstance? What role have those guilty parties played in a remedy? In fiscal support? In immigration? In translocation?

None.







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Ace Midnight
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Nor should Israel. What role did Egypt, Syria, Jordan and others play in the Palestinians circumstance? What role have those guilty parties played in a remedy? In fiscal support? In immigration? In translocation?

None.


The fact they just left the Palestinians out to dry - ESPECIALLY after 1967 - just to let the cancer gnaw at Israel, when the oil rich states could have done so much to fix things - is just inexcusable. I don't think the Israelis are always right (or even mostly right), but what wasn't done by the Arabs to fix the problem is, by far, the most shameful.






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TK421
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If these rockets don't cause the evacuation of half of Israel like Hezbollah did in 2006, they're just a nuisance


I love it when liberals admit to having no respect for human life.



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RollTide1987
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The fact they just left the Palestinians out to dry - ESPECIALLY after 1967 - just to let the cancer gnaw at Israel, when the oil rich states could have done so much to fix things - is just inexcusable. I don't think the Israelis are always right (or even mostly right), but what wasn't done by the Arabs to fix the problem is, by far, the most shameful.



This. The nations of the Arab League completely abandoned the Palestinians to this "occupation". Why did they do it? So Palestinian blood could be shed in the war with the Israelis instead of their own. The Arab League cares nothing for the Palestinians and only views them as canon fodder in the fight against the Zionists.






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trackfan
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Nor should Israel. What role did Egypt, Syria, Jordan and others play in the Palestinians circumstance? What role have those guilty parties played in a remedy? In fiscal support? In immigration? In translocation?

As about as constructive role as the U.S. and Europe did in finding a homeland for Jews after WWII. Instead of taking the spoils of war from the losers and giving them Bavaria, they condemned them to neverending war in the Mideast. Don't forget, the U.S. refused a ship of Jewish refugees when they were searching for a home.






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RogerTheShrubber
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Why don't we promote it in other lands 100% of the time.


This is what we need to stop doing






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Geauxrilla Ballz
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Yet all of those countries - Lebanon, Syria, Jordan have taken in the instant 700,000+ refugees after the 1948 war.

Well then tell us this - why won't Israel let all of those Palestinian refugees back into Israel proper? Lands and properties they own, and have owned for centuries.






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Ace Midnight
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Well then tell us this - why won't Israel let all of those Palestinian refugees back into Israel proper? Lands and properties they own, and have owned for centuries.


Too much blood has been spilled now - there is not turning back that clock. They're shelling/rocketing Israel from Gaza and the West Bank - they will continue to do so from the suburbs of Jeruseleum.

If we focus on people doing business with each other without resorting to violence - let's get through a few years of that before we start talking about a limited right of return.






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RollTide1987
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Well then tell us this - why won't Israel let all of those Palestinian refugees back into Israel proper? Lands and properties they own, and have owned for centuries.



As the above poster has said, there has been too much blood spilled and neither side trusts the other. Do you think Israel would let those people in when quite a few of them would go about conducting terrorist attacks against the Israelis? This war isn't about the so-called "occupied zones". Most of these militant groups see the land of Israel as one big occupied zone. They won't stop fighting until Israel no longer exists. This war has raged since the founding of Israel - years before the 1967 Six Day War created the "Occupied Zones".

Look what happened when Israel gave Gaza back to the Palestinians. They set up rocket launchers in Gaza and fired rockets into Israel.



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NC_Tigah
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As about as constructive role as the U.S. and Europe did in finding a homeland for Jews after WWII. Instead of taking the spoils of war from the losers and giving them Bavaria, they condemned them to neverending war in the Mideast.
Wait!
We've 'evolved' in this discussion from assertions of the U.S. and Europe giving away other people's land to solve their "Jew" problem, to their now condemning the Jews to live in a land of "neverending war."

Wow!






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Ace Midnight
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Look what happened when Israel gave Gaza back to the Palestinians. They set up rocket launchers in Gaza and fired rockets into Israel.


Almost immediately. They are, in fact, paid and encouraged to do so. They also stage events for media consumption in which they fake injury and death at the hands of Israeli forces, for filming purposes. Not that I'm saying that Israel never kills innocent civilians, nor ever provokes things for their own benefit, but let's look at it rationally: Israel ALWAYS gets beat up in the international media and at the UN. They have much less to gain. While they do not have clean hands, my analysis is that the outside agitators (and some internal extremists of, particularly, Hamas) arm, train, pay and encourage the Palestinians to conduct these attacks. Eventually, Israel responds (they know that they're damned-if-they-do or damned-if-they-don't) and ultimately gets the upper hand. THEN the UN, other Arab states, etc. call for a ceasefire and negotiations (and the negotiations are always something they wanted to begin with, currently lifting of the Gaza blockade). Now, Israel has a quandry. They want the ceasefire and are getting beat up in the press, but if they lift the blockade, without other concessions (just to stop the shelling), then they have played right into the Palestinian's hands and this will encourage further rocket/mortar/missile attacks in the future. They feel, especially under a Likud administration, that when the provocation is severe enough, they must extract the appropriate number of pounds of flesh in exchange to at least deter it in the future.

"Nobody's right, when everybody's wrong." So who loses? Israeli and Palestinian civilians caught in the crossfire.






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