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re: ESPN Story on the Teabagger!
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:13 am to TriumphTiger
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:13 am to TriumphTiger
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Setterstrom pulls veteran zipper interventionist Ellen Cassin away from the action.
one of my favorite sentences at that point.
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:13 am to TriumphTiger
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I can't tell you how many times I've seen a group of guys screw with someone passed out, although it's usually to a friend.
Practically speaking, this is the main issue at play. Friends doing it to friends = prank. Strangers doing it to other strangers (regardless of gender) = sexual harassment.
No law enforcement official, DA or judge in their right mind would pursue this as a crime if it's friend/friend, indecent exposure being one of the very few exceptions I can think of.
This post was edited on 11/15/12 at 11:15 am
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:15 am to Govt Tide
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I feel much more sorry for Downing's wife and child than I do Stamp.
Funny how he and his wife present it as so out of character, and yet he doesn't have that decency to apologize or seem apologetic. If you aren't truly sorry for doing something twisted like that, you are fully capable of something like that. You can't blame the alcohol. I do feel sorry for the wife on some level, but if he is truly a good guy, as his wife says, it should be easy for her to convince him to think about it and to be sorry for doing it.
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:18 am to 5Alive
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And his victim Garrison Stamp. SMH
LINK
What kind of Cock and Bull Story is this?
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:18 am to Tigercat
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Funny how he and his wife present it as so out of character, and yet he doesn't have that decency to apologize or seem apologetic.
Perhaps he has been advised by his lawyer not to do so ... until all the legalities are resolved.
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:21 am to navy
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Perhaps he has been advised by his lawyer not to do so ... until all the legalities are resolved.
Maybe, although I don't see how apologizing and being remorseful for the actual incident itself isn't ok, but giving all those details about the day and your reaction to it coming out is ok.
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:21 am to navy
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Perhaps he has been advised by his lawyer not to do so ... until all the legalities are resolved.
I would assert his civil attorney is giving him bad advice, then.
I agree with the guy who said Stamp's civil case is probably not worth much at all, regardless, though.
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:24 am to 5Alive
Good Lord. I actually read most of it. I don't know what to say.
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:25 am to navy
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Perhaps he has been advised by his lawyer not to do so ... until all the legalities are resolved.
You might have something here, but Brian Downing took the plea deal, i.e. he pled guilty. Staying mum, re: apologizing, won't provide him some advantage in the civil action/trial.
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:25 am to 5Alive
Tie your shoes, shave, tuck in the shirt, get rid of the blankie, and move out of Mom's house
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:25 am to Tigercat
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Funny how he and his wife present it as so out of character, and yet he doesn't have that decency to apologize or seem apologetic. If you aren't truly sorry for doing something twisted like that, you are fully capable of something like that. You can't blame the alcohol. I do feel sorry for the wife on some level, but if he is truly a good guy, as his wife says, it should be easy for her to convince him to think about it and to be sorry for doing it.
Where do you get that he isn't sorry for doing it? It may sound cynical but he probably couldn't apologize to Stamp even if he wanted to given there was a criminal trial and even a pending civil suit. An apology doesn't do him any good given that people are out for blood and revenge wanting to make an example out of him. It would also probably be used against him in a civil suit. For every inch you give to the other side, the other side and their lawyer wants a mile. It's cynical, but that a negotiating technique and negotiating ground that Downing can't afford to give up.
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:28 am to Govt Tide
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Civil suit was filed against Downing and Krystal, fyi.
He's going to get paid..... especially by Krystal I feel.
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:33 am to DeathValley85
Wow
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:35 am to Govt Tide
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Govt Tide
1. Well, there's certainly no facts that would suggest he's remorseful either. The average person with any human decency would apologize.
2. "But wait", you say. "He could incriminate himself in the criminal and civil actions!" He's already done that by pleading guilty. Such a plea is admissible in the later civil suit (which I said before won't sniff an actual trial date). His lawyers (who I know of, but not personally) undoubtedly know this. I'd be shocked if he's getting "no apology" advice from them.
3. Also, read the story. Downing admits to doing it, although his actual memory of it is "hazy".
4. In the civil trial, the issue for Downing's lawyers isn't whether he did it. He's virtually admitted he has. Their issue and strategy will be to dismantle the actual damages Garrison suffered.
5. Contrary to what you say, an apology really means little in the legal arena, but a whole lot (imo) in the public arena. Downing can be forgiven for doing something really stupid, but many people (me included) will continue to think of him as a Piece of Sh*t simply because he can't muster the courage to apologize for his stupidity.
This post was edited on 11/15/12 at 11:39 am
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:47 am to BamaTiger00
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5. Contrary to what you say, an apology really means little in the legal arena, but a whole lot (imo) in the public arena. Downing can be forgiven for doing something really stupid, but many people (me included) will continue to think of him as a Piece of Sh*t simply because he can't muster the courage to apologize for his stupidity.
Yup, and as evidence that he isn't remorseful, from the story he told the reporter:
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This is bad, he thought. For a while, the friends ragged him, but before long they were asleep. Downing was in disbelief. He spent much of the way home playing the what-if game, trying to think through the various consequences that might come from putting his balls on another man's face. By the time he pulled into his driveway, though, he'd convinced himself that, yes, what had happened was stupid, monumentally stupid. But worse things happen on Bourbon Street every night, don't they?
If you can't even fake remorse when talking to a reporter who wants your side of the story. If all you can think of at all times is "How will this affect ME?!" after doing something twisted to another human being...
Then you are an unremorseful POS.
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:53 am to Meauxjeaux
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quote: He also says he hasn't really considered the man he tea-bagged much at all. "Nothing malicious toward that person," he says. "I just haven't thought about what he's going through because of all the chaos that's upside-down in my life."
So glad this dude has to report Nov 29th. Hopefully he'll have time to think about others.
I was just coming to post this.
I didn't think this before, but he deserves everything that came to him. It sounds like he honestly feels like the victim in all of this.
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:55 am to 5Alive
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:58 am to ZereauxSum
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"Nothing malicious toward that person," he says
What a stand up guy not having malicious thoughts about the passed out freshman he sexually assaulted.
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:58 am to ZereauxSum
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I didn't think this before, but he deserves everything that came to him. It sounds like he honestly feels like the victim in all of this.
Thought the same thing. A simple "my bad" would've gone a long way.
Posted on 11/15/12 at 12:04 pm to 5Alive
Not to make light, but the guys last name is Stamp?
Real life is better than fiction.
Real life is better than fiction.
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