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| Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:12 pm)
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Tigah in the ATL
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:16 pm to Jim Rockford)
stupid idea, mostly candy to square voters.
ONOZ!! Their smoking pot!!
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haggard79
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:18 pm to Jim Rockford)
Those failing a test would be denied benefits for 12 months, or until they completed a drug treatment program.
Don't particulary like this part. Who pays for the treatment? In addition, I do not agree with the 12 months. Should be final.
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CITWTT
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:21 pm to Tigah in the ATL)
Why do you look down upon that notion hack? Almost every EMPLOYER requires it in the modern world, why not for the status of leech to be valid?
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chadau79 
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:23 pm to Jim Rockford)
Yes, if companies require it for employment benefits, then we should require it for unemployment benefits.
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TJG210
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:27 pm to chadau79)
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Yes, if companies require it for employment benefits, then we should require it for unemployment benefits.
Exactly......
But if you extend that burden to the welfare maggots who can't get a job because they can't pass a piss test it's discriminatory. Continuing to let these bastards stay on welfare is just enabling their dope habit.
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Jim Rockford
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:27 pm to chadau79)
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Yes, if companies require it for employment benefits, then we should require it for unemployment benefits.
Why should companies require it for employment, excepting positions that work with hazardous materials or equipment? If a receptionist wants to smoke a joint on her own time, that shouldn't be her employer's business.
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moneyg
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:29 pm to Jim Rockford)
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Why should companies require it for employment, excepting positions that work with hazardous materials or equipment? If a receptionist wants to smoke a joint on her own time, that shouldn't be her employer's business.
The employer should be able to set whatever guidelines he/she deems important. Who are you to say what an employer should be able to consider?
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chadau79
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:31 pm to Jim Rockford)
Employees generate revenue for employers. If the employer deems it necesary to test for drugs to protect the bottom line then it is definitely "their business". I am sure that hemp shop owners do not test since drug use most likely improves their revenue instead of hinder it.
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moneyg
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:31 pm to Tigah in the ATL)
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stupid idea, mostly candy to square voters.
ONOZ!! Their smoking pot!!
It affects their ability to be gainfully employed and therefore, extends the duration of collecting unemployment benefits.
Should someone who is disqualified from a job opening for failing a drug test receive unemployment benefits?
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Tyrusrex
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:33 pm to moneyg)
I wouldn't mind a drug test, but I also want our legislators to get tested too. Too often they vote themselves exceptions that regular people are required to do.
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Jim Rockford
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:33 pm to moneyg)
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The employer should be able to set whatever guidelines he/she deems important. Who are you to say what an employer should be able to consider?
If an employer thinks employees shouldn't waste so much of their free time on the internet, should he be able to put a tracking device on their smartphone?
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Jim Rockford
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:35 pm to moneyg)
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It affects their ability to be gainfully employed and therefore, extends the duration of collecting unemployment benefits.
citation, please.
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MFn GIMP
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:38 pm to Jim Rockford)
I like the idea in theory but it will only end up costing us more to drug test every individual than we would save by ending benefits.
Now if you don't care about the fiscal aspect of drug testing and only want to end unemployment benefits, welfare, other social benefits, then it's not a bad idea. But if you are simply trying to save money then it's not so good.
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Taxing Authority
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 5:40 pm to Jim Rockford)
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Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits?
Stupid.
The real drugs that cause most of the social problems: meth, crack, coke are all undetectable in a hours to a few days. Only pot has a lingering half-life to catch a user. And it's about the most innoccuous drug I can think of.
But hey! Now you know why David Dewhurst lost his bid for Senate... he's anything but a small government politician.
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Tyrusrex
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 5:40 pm to moneyg)
I wouldn't mind a drug test, but I also want our legislators to get tested too. Too often they vote themselves exceptions that regular people are required to do.
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 5:47 pm to Tyrusrex)
Yea Florida tried this and it was a failure
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NELAtigers 
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 5:48 pm to Jim Rockford)
Stupid and a violation of the 4th Amendment.... Should college students be subject to random drug test if they are receiving scholarships?
It sounds good but it is a slippery slope and something the gov't shouldn't be able to do.
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 5:52 pm to chadau79)
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Yes, if companies require it for employment benefits, then we should require it for unemployment benefits.
Good waste of money.
at least the government will grow, for the big govt folks who like this kind of stuff.
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BamaDude06 
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| re: Drug tests to receive unemployment benefits? (Posted on 11/13/12 at 5:58 pm to petar)
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Yea Florida tried this and it was a failure
This. Less than three percent failed the test.
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Also the walk in clinic they required the applicants use was owned by Gov. Scott and his family. No conflict of interest there.
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