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boxcar willie  LSU Fan kenner Member since Mar 2011 2834 posts

| fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:44 pm)
lets the Bush era tax cuts expire, broadens the tax base, and cuts spending across the board. Brings us closer to balancing the budget. Of course it is going to renew the recession, as balancing the budget will do, but it does what needs to be done. Whats wrong with that? We can't just keep putting off balancing the budget.
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Fat Bastard  New Orleans Saints Fan Paradise Member since Mar 2009 13433 posts

| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:48 pm to boxcar willie)
yeah we have an economy on steroids like with clinton. no way raising taxes will hurt anybody right? i guess you failed to research the reagan and kennedy tax cuts right???
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Powerman  LSU Fan Corpus Christi, TX Member since Jan 2004 115646 posts

| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:49 pm to boxcar willie)
At some point taxes have to go up 
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GRTiger  USA Fan On a roof eating alligator pie Member since Dec 2008 12177 posts

| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:50 pm to boxcar willie)
You think increasing taxes will have any substantial positive impact on the deficit and debt? Also, what budget are you talking about?
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CBLSU316  LSU Fan Far Right of Left Member since Jun 2008 4134 posts
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| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:52 pm to GRTiger)
Spending increases the deficit........not tax cuts or increases!!!!!
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tylercsbn9  USA Fan Tomball, TX Member since Feb 2004 51581 posts

| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:52 pm to boxcar willie)
I think most people are all for Clinton level tax. IF We have spending at the same level. I won't hold my breath on that though.
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boxcar willie  LSU Fan kenner Member since Mar 2011 2834 posts

| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:53 pm to Powerman)
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At some point taxes have to go up
we definitely need to broaden the tax base at the lower end, but everyone is going to have to make some sacrifices, not just the lower end of the economic spectrum.
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boxcar willie  LSU Fan kenner Member since Mar 2011 2834 posts

| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:54 pm to tylercsbn9)
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I think most people are all for Clinton level tax. IF We have spending at the same level. I won't hold my breath on that though.
that's pretty much what the fiscal cliff does
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boxcar willie  LSU Fan kenner Member since Mar 2011 2834 posts

| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:55 pm to CBLSU316)
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Spending increases the deficit........not tax cuts or increases!!!!!
math 101 disagrees with you
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constant cough  New Orleans Saints Fan Lafayette Member since Jun 2007 28320 posts

| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:57 pm to boxcar willie)
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broadens the tax base
Are you talking about reducing the 47%? Yeah right, that's not gonna happen.
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CBLSU316  LSU Fan Far Right of Left Member since Jun 2008 4134 posts
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| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:58 pm to boxcar willie)
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math 101 disagrees with you
Explain then genius.
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GRTiger  USA Fan On a roof eating alligator pie Member since Dec 2008 12177 posts

| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:58 pm to boxcar willie)
If the debt is a safe you are trying to break into, spending cuts is a stick of dynamite and tax increases is a black jack fire cracker.
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CBLSU316  LSU Fan Far Right of Left Member since Jun 2008 4134 posts
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| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:00 pm to GRTiger)
So GRTiger agrees with me?
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Duke  New Orleans Saints Fan Gonzales, La Member since Jan 2008 13517 posts

| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:02 pm to boxcar willie)
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Of course it is going to renew the recession
Which lowers your tax revenue even with the tax increases. Great plan.
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boxcar willie  LSU Fan kenner Member since Mar 2011 2834 posts

| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:02 pm to CBLSU316)
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Explain then genius.
increasing revenues while decreasing expenditures are the path to a balanced budget
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CBLSU316  LSU Fan Far Right of Left Member since Jun 2008 4134 posts
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| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:04 pm to boxcar willie)
You clearly understood nothing I said.
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Patrick_Bateman  USA Fan Member since Jan 2012 5082 posts

| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:04 pm to boxcar willie)
I agree. I have no problem going over the fiscal cliff. I'd rather go over it now than to continue to kick the can down the road indefinitely. Something has to be done now.
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Patrick_Bateman  USA Fan Member since Jan 2012 5082 posts

| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:05 pm to Duke)
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Which lowers your tax revenue even with the tax increases. Great plan.
And the spending cuts?
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boxcar willie  LSU Fan kenner Member since Mar 2011 2834 posts

| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:05 pm to Duke)
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Which lowers your tax revenue even with the tax increases. Great plan.
of course it is going to lead to a recession. Balancing the budget will lead to a recession. But better to have a contolled recession than the economic freefall that will occur if we continue down this path.
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JohnnyKilroy  North Carolina Fan Member since Oct 2012 5134 posts

| re: fiscal cliff, whats wrong with it? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:05 pm to boxcar willie)
How do you increase revenues in this new recession?
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