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austiger 
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| SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:36 pm)
why wouldn't the SEC adopt a hybrid scheduling system from the east that would make things a little more fair.
For example, keep a permanent "rival" but also make the 2nd team you play change every year based on where you finish in division.
i.e. #1 SECW team plays #1 SECE team and so on
This alabama schedule for 2013 is a joke - this would even it out some.
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Y.A. Tittle
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:40 pm to austiger)
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This alabama schedule for 2013 is a joke - this would even it out some.
That whole freaking sacrosanct unbreakable "rivalry" with Tennesee deal is such a load of crap.
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:51 pm to austiger)
Alabama/Tennessee
Auburn/Georgia
Are untouchable apparently
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austiger
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:01 pm to graychef)
I'm willing to concede that even.
It's the other game that concerns me. Make the other game be scheduled on the basis of finish in the SEC. Similar to how the NFL does it with in-conference games.
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:04 pm to austiger)
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For example, keep a permanent "rival" but also make the 2nd team you play change every year based on where you finish in division.
Because the games are for the fans. At some point, people want to travel to Nashville, Lexington, Columbia, etc.
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:06 pm to austiger)
Damn.. pretty good point.. I'm not sure how no one has ever thought of that before
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:13 pm to austiger)
So if Florida and LSU win their respective divisions, who would they play in their other game?
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austiger
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:31 pm to 3HourTour)
in case of tie, there would be some tiebreaker... i.e. 1&2 flip, 5&6 flip based on h2h or most recent last opponent, etc.
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:33 pm to 3HourTour)
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So if Florida and LSU win their respective divisions, who would they play in their other game?
My guess is that they would play the #2 team in the opposite division instead.
However, only once have permanent opposite division opponents have ever played each other:
Auburn played Florida, when they were still part of Auburn's two-team permanent rivals. Otherwise Auburn has played Tennessee & South Carolina
LSU has played Tennessee & Georgia
Alabama has played Florida
Arkansas has played Florida & Georgia
State has played Tennessee.
(Note: rematches have happened several times, like LSU-Tennessee in 2001 & LSU Georgia in 2003, but only the 2000 Auburn-Florida game matched permanent rivals.)
Playing each other in the regular season makes it harder for one of the teams to win the other division.
Interesting suggestion. Send it up.
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:10 pm to Y.A. Tittle)
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That whole freaking sacrosanct unbreakable "rivalry" with Tennesee deal is such a load of crap.
This. This game is supposedly s huge rivalry yet no one nationally cares. No one else in the SEC cares. It's contrived and Bama has AU when it needs a rival.
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:15 pm to austiger)
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This alabama schedule for 2013 is a joke -
That's the whole point.
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:19 pm to austiger)
It's simple:
8 game schedule. No divisions. No 'permanent' opponents.
Each school would play:
3 teams each year for four years
5 of the 10 other schools would rotate onto the schedule for a home and home for two years
5 remaining schools rotate home and home for the next two years in this four-year cycle.
Top 2 records go to Atlanta (tiebreakers would be necessary)
Then, switch out the three four-year schools and start over.
In this system, each school would play every school in the conference at least twice every four years. To placate Bama, TN, Aub, and GA, the longest any school would go without playing the other would be two years.
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LSU GrandDad
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:28 pm to austiger)
when we had less teams things were more equitable. now it seems like georgia and bama skate most years. there are big stakes in sec football and bama missing florida, georgia and usc is bull shite. same with georgia missing lsu, bama and good team #3.
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:35 pm to Y.A. Tittle)
I don't understand why Oklahoma and Nebraska were able to stop meeting every year after nearly 100 consecutive meetings when the Big 12 formed back in the mid 90s but Tennessee and Bama can't.
No wonder the southern states are the poorest, dumbest, and fattest.
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CalTiger53
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/8/12 at 12:02 am to austiger)
For 2013, the right thing to do was make LSU play Kentucky and Alabama travel to Georgia.
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/8/12 at 12:24 am to austiger)
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This alabama schedule for 2013 is a joke
Because of this.....The last time Bama played good teams from the East they finished out at 9-3.
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/8/12 at 6:34 am to austiger)
Honest, and probably dumb, question,and I'm sure the answer is somehow 'money', but:
Why can't the SEC teams all play each other except for maybe one OOC game? Yes, I know we now have too many teams, so go with play 11 conference opponents, leaving two out each year, rotating.
Or, even better, play all 13 conference opponents and ditch the conference championship game - that way, no one 'sits home on the couch', you still get a conf champ, no whining about who plays the harder teams, and one more game for everyone instead of just the two top teams. I mean, you're asking some teams to play 13 games - why not all of them?
I know - no OOC games won't fly with some schools where they have an in-state rival (UF, FSU, UGA, GaTech).... maybe they can have a preseason exhibition...haha.
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/8/12 at 7:00 am to Lacour)
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No wonder the southern states are the poorest, dumbest, and fattest
smartest post ever from apparently the richest, smartest, and thinnest poster ever 
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/8/12 at 7:31 am to bluestem75)
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It's simple:
8 game schedule. No divisions. No 'permanent' opponents.
Each school would play:
3 teams each year for four years
5 of the 10 other schools would rotate onto the schedule for a home and home for two years
5 remaining schools rotate home and home for the next two years in this four-year cycle.
Top 2 records go to Atlanta (tiebreakers would be necessary)
Then, switch out the three four-year schools and start over.
In this system, each school would play every school in the conference at least twice every four years. To placate Bama, TN, Aub, and GA, the longest any school would go without playing the other would be two years.
Unfortunately, because of the NCAA rules on having a conference championship game this won't work. The rules are that the conference must be seperated into divisions and the teams in those divisions must play a round robin schedule against everyone in their division. So by having two 7 team divisions, 6 of every team's games are already set in stone, the only one's movable are the cross-divisional games.
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Tigerstark
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| re: SEC scheduling question (Posted on 11/8/12 at 7:46 am to Dreamweaver)
The best solution?
Let Bama/Tenn and Auburn/UGA do their permanent things.
Everyone else rotates with no permanent.
Obviously we'd play Florida, Missouri, UK, Vandy and South Carolina more often than we'd play UGA and Tenn since they are only rotating one team a year while the others rotate 2 teams.
Its not difficult. There's no reason why everyone else has to do what Bama and Auburn want...oh wait, the SEC office is in Birgmingham. Nevermind.
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