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ottothewise 
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| Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:02 pm)
Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters.
I keep wondering about the apocalpse salesmen telling me socialist security and medicare are going away unless we switch to a voucher so we can pay the old people 1/2 what they are getting.
EVERYONE is going to get old. The Voucher Republican plan to replace medicare is about everyone, not just old people.
What makes it a good idea to take 1/2 the money back from every single old person ever to live in the future.
Instead, put whatever money is necessary to make it work, except that people whose incomes are over X, pay triple, and if over 100X, they pay 4 times as much. And they dont have to have medicare. its optional.
back to reality. WE can afford medicare, except for the
criminals. 90 MDs and nurses were arraigned yesterday in some fraud Obama's FBI stopped.
dont let the rich tell you its a necessary evil to gut medicare.
Let them pay for the debt if its scaring them so much.
Buffet said they could pay it off. Yes, the numbers have changed.
The principle is clear though. the super rich have plenty enough to bail this out and right now is the best time, as Buffets numbers proved.
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LSUGrrrl
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Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2007
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:08 pm to ottothewise)
Like a little boy complaining that his dad won't pay his outrageous credit card bill.
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JLSIX 
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Member since Apr 2010
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:10 pm to ottothewise)
Welcome back Otto! 
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southernelite 
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Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2009
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:12 pm to ottothewise)
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Buffet said they could pay it off
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CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:14 pm to ottothewise)
Quit blaming other people, makes you look like a turd.
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Tiger Authority
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:15 pm to CamdenTiger)
Like he never left
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Elcid96
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:22 pm to ottothewise)
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EVERYONE is going to get old.
This was never in doubt!
So you would think that you would plan for such crazy things.
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Let them pay for the debt if its scaring them so much.
Spoken like a true child with no clue on how a economy works.
Debt hurts everyone.
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ottothewise
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:25 pm to Elcid96)
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Let them pay for the debt if its scaring them so much.
Spoken like a true child with no clue on how a economy works.
Debt hurts everyone
you missed the point, again.
in this one, you apparently missed where Buffet says, and its been discussed 10 times on this board, that the rich could pay off the debt, and still be rich.
That's the bottom line. the rich can afford to pay it all off, tomorrow, and they will still be rich by any measure.
So.. instead of dunning poor people out of loan interest, they should just pay off the debt and be glad to their idea of Divinity that they have PLENTY.
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TROLA
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BATON ROUGE
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:26 pm to ottothewise)
Otto.. This is easy for you.. You are older and are worried about Medicare, I get that but we cannot afford to go on like we have, plan and simple. It will go broke. This president passed the largest healthcare bill ever coupled with two years of full control, he doesn't deserve a redo or more time on the matter
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TigerNlc
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Member since Jun 2006
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:26 pm to ottothewise)
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EVERYONE is going to get old.
Not true
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TigerNlc
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Lafayette
Member since Jun 2006
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:29 pm to ottothewise)
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That's the bottom line. the rich can afford to pay it all off, tomorrow, and they will still be rich by any measure.
So.. instead of dunning poor people out of loan interest, they should just pay off the debt and be glad to their idea of Divinity that they have PLENTY.
Wow you are sad. It's their money to do with what they want. Who are you to decide what is plenty?
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Elcid96
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Member since May 2010
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:29 pm to ottothewise)
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that the rich could pay off the debt, and still be rich.
Define Rich
Define Plenty
Define Pay Off
I bet you are the kind of guy who if he is ever invited out with his house guest or friend who may be worth more than you are, you expect him or her to pay the tab for dinner. Because in the back of your mind you figure...hey he can afford it.
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volforever 
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Member since May 2012
1312 posts
| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:33 pm to ottothewise)
Justice does not exist. force is the only law of the world, sad perhaps, but true. 
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jcole4lsu 
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Member since Nov 2007
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:33 pm to ottothewise)
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that the rich could pay off the debt, and still be rich.
top 50% pay 90%+ of taxes as it stands now. why the frick should they pay any more?
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ottothewise
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2008
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:35 pm to TROLA)
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medicare will go broke.
just if you want it to. its really up to you and me.
Do we endow KBR's kids with an extra billion, and let Romney do his wars in the middle east, or should we put that into medicare?
on a scale of one to ten, with 10 being absolutely, what do you guess is the chance that Romney would get us into a war?
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TROLA
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BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:37 pm to ottothewise)
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in this one, you apparently missed where Buffet says, and its been discussed 10 times on this board, that the rich could pay off the debt, and still be rich.
Well buffet was wrong.. If you were to confiscate all the wealth of the billionaires, it wouldn't come close..throw in all those worth over a 100 million and we still aren't there.
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tigeraddict
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Member since Mar 2007
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:37 pm to ottothewise)
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back to reality. WE can afford medicare, except for the
criminals. 90 MDs and nurses were arraigned yesterday in some fraud Obama's FBI stopped.
the medicare system is so large and cumbersome, that $500m can be bilked and years to find out.
What else is getting bilked that they haven't caught.
insurance companies are much better at finding fraud...because it their money at stake.....
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jcole4lsu
Virginia Fan
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Member since Nov 2007
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:39 pm to ottothewise)
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and let Romney do his wars in the middle east, or should we put that into medicare?
100% chance that if obama attacks iran before the election you will be the first to defend his actions you clueless frick
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TROLA
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BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:40 pm to ottothewise)
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on a scale of one to ten, with 10 being absolutely, what do you guess is the chance that Romney would get us into a war?
I have no idea but our current president seems to enjoy the spoils of war as well.
Medicare, once again, will go broke if something isn't done. I personally believe its time to let someone else handle it over Obama, who had his shot
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Tom288 
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| re: Money cannot be allowed to dictate that only money matters. (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:43 pm to ottothewise)
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in this one, you apparently missed where Buffet says, and its been discussed 10 times on this board, that the rich could pay off the debt, and still be rich.
That's the bottom line. the rich can afford to pay it all off, tomorrow, and they will still be rich by any measure.
So.. instead of dunning poor people out of loan interest, they should just pay off the debt and be glad to their idea of Divinity that they have PLENTY.
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