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re: Who is the most IMPORTANT musician of our generation?

Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:34 pm to
Derek Trucks is one that I desperately wanted to vote for but the only thing that kept me from doing so is I'm afraid that he will be forgotten by future generations since he is so far out of the spotlight.

Future musicians will have to search long and hard for him but the ones that find him will be forever changed
Posted by Standing ona beach
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:38 pm to
Bono

Beck

Neil Young

Reznor

Prince

Eddie Vedder



This post was edited on 9/29/12 at 9:13 am
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:39 pm to
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CottonWasKing


GREAT TOPIC KING!!!!!


BUT it depends on the generation.......



But I will say Chuck Berry. What he was able to do with the guitar in the 50's inspired a SHITLOAD of people. Just my take.
Posted by CocoLoco
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:41 pm to
I can respect that, and I think the world of Jack White. Just speaking personally, I know both have had a significant impact on my influences when it comes to playing guitar. I'm thinking how I want to play like them, and how I would love to do what they do. Mimicking their riffs over and over, trying to get their sounds. I've watched youtube videos of both for years and years learning where they got their inspiration from. I wouldn't be into the Allman Bros, Jimi, SRV, etc. and blues music in general near as much as I am today if it weren't for them.

I think both along with Joe Bonamassa and Derek Trucks, will all be looked back as all time great guitar players down the road though. IMO they all should be mentioned in those top 100 lists. I wouldn't put them nowhere near the top, but I think they do belong.
This post was edited on 9/28/12 at 7:43 pm
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:42 pm to
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BUT it depends on the generation.......


Come on PJ I know you're drunk but you gotta read dude


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GREAT TOPIC KING!!!!!



and don't call me that. It makes me feel like a meth head from Arkansas and I REFUSE to be mistaken for a guy from fricking Arkansas
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:44 pm to
Second page and no mention of Thom Yorke?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:45 pm to
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Come on PJ I know you're drunk but you gotta read dude


OK what is YOUR generation???? Or do you want to mess with a guy that has been around for the WHOLE SHOOTING MATCH????????????

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and don't call me that. It makes me feel like a meth head from Arkansas and I REFUSE to be mistaken for a guy from fricking Arkansas


SORRY!!! I will call you CLAPTON from now on. feel better??????????
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:48 pm to
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I can respect that, and I think the world of Jack White. Just speaking personally, I know both have had a significant impact on my influences when it comes to playing guitar. I'm thinking how I want to play like them, and how I would love to do what they do. Mimicking their riffs over and over, trying to get their sounds. I've watched youtube videos of both for years and years learning where they got their inspiration from. I wouldn't be into the Allman Bros, Jimi, SRV, etc. and blues music in general near as much as I am today if it weren't for them. I think both along with Joe Bonamassa and Derek Trucks, will all be looked back as all time great guitar players down the road though.



Oh by all means I agree. That hypothetical John Mayer fan would most certainly be a musical presence in that hypothetical world I was talking about but I just feel like the Jack White fan would be more likely to have the balls to shrug off popular and accepted conventions and create something of his own and thats what your "important" musicians must possess.

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I wouldn't be into the Allman Bros, Jimi, SRV, etc. and blues music in general near as much as I am today if it weren't for them.


See I listened to them all my life if it wasn't for them I would've never gotten into White Stripes, Black Keys, Gary Clark jr etc etc

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along with Joe Bonamassa and Derek Trucks, will all be looked back as all time great guitar players down the road though.


My only worry with them is will they stand the test of time since most don't know who they are even now?



BTW I think Gary Clark Jr. could very well be in this conversation in a few years if he lives up to the potential that I believe he has.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:50 pm to
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Second page and no mention of Thom Yorke


I don't really like Radiohead so honestly Thom Yorke never crossed my mind but he is a great pick.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:54 pm to
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OK what is YOUR generation????





I already told you in the OP. Musicians who are currently in their 20s and 30s.


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SORRY!!! I will call you CLAPTON from now on. feel better??????????


I'd prefer skydog but I guess slow hand will work.

btw listen to this I think it may sway you from your "Todays music sucks" stance.

If it doesn't you're beyond my help
Posted by Chef Leppard
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:54 pm to
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his John Mayer counterpart.


You said that correctly.

In that last Mayer interview I read in rolling stone, he said something to the effect of him and Jack White both being something special. The last ounce of respect that kept me from wanting to choke the douche out of him was gone

Never mention Mayer and White in the same breath. Eva
Posted by CocoLoco
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:55 pm to
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See I listened to them all my life if it wasn't for them I would've never gotten into White Stripes, Black Keys, Gary Clark jr etc etc



I always listened to them, especially Jimi, but it all started to click and I feel in love with that kind of music when I was probably 17 or so. They kinda pushed me more into it.



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My only worry with them is will they stand the test of time since most don't know who they are even now?


I think any kid that gets really serious into playing guitar, especially blues, will come across these guys, and when they do they will be blown away.


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BTW I think Gary Clark Jr. could very well be in this conversation in a few years if he lives up to the potential that I believe he has.



absolutely agree, can't wait for his album. Seeing him live will sell pretty much anyone on him
Posted by CocoLoco
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:01 pm to
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In that last Mayer interview I read in rolling stone, he said something to the effect of him and Jack White both being something special. The last ounce of respect that kept me from wanting to choke the douche out of him was gone

Never mention Mayer and White in the same breath. Eva


I see nothing wrong with what he said. They are both very famous musicians, and passionate about what they do. There are not many that play what they do and achieve success like that. The radio is filled with pop and rap, yet these 2 get their music played despite not being the norm of what you heard today. You can think he is arrogant all you want, but he plays what he wants to play, and he, just like White, is very good at it.

If Clapton, BB King, Buddy Guy are all fine with him, not to mention SRVs tech guy choosing to be Johns, I think that says something.


The douche you want to choke
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:04 pm to
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but it all started to click and I feel in love with that kind of music when I was probably 17 or so.


Exactly the same way I was. My dad always listened to them in the house when I was growing up so when I got around 13-14 years old I kind of micro-rebelled by getting into the pop-punk & emoish music like Hawthorne Heights, Taking Back Sunday, Story of The Year etc etc....

Thank god I found my way home, back to where greatness lives

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I think any kid that gets really serious into playing guitar, especially blues, will come across these guys, and when they do they will be blown away.


I hope so. Although unfortunately they won't really be in a position to inspire a kid to begin learning as most would either already be playing or come from a musical family to find them.

I know my future kids will most certainly know who they are and they will at least act like they like them in my presence

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Seeing him live will sell pretty much anyone on him


I had never even heard his name before I saw him at Wakarusa last June. A friend who I ran into at the fest was so emphatic saying that I MUST go see him that he talked me into.

I don't think I moved that hour. I wasn't capable of it, all I could do was sit there with my hands on my head and my jaw on the floor. Just unbelievable. He OWNS a stage and DEMANDS your complete and undivided attention.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:10 pm to
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I see nothing wrong with what he said. They are both very famous musicians, and passionate about what they do. There are not many that play what they do and achieve success like that. The radio is filled with pop and rap, yet these 2 get their music played despite not being the norm of what you heard today. You can think he is arrogant all you want, but he plays what he wants to play, and he, just like White, is very good at it. If Clapton, BB King, Buddy Guy are all fine with him, not to mention SRVs tech guy choosing to be Johns, I think that says something. The douche you want to choke




Now lets not get carried away here.....


John Mayer is most certainly, without a shadow of a doubt, on an unprecedented level of douchebaggery.

HOWEVER, in his defense great rock n roll minds have few options. They are either douches, assholes, dicks or just unbelievably goddamned weird.

Name one great rock n roll musician who doesn't fall into one of those categories I dare you.
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:14 pm to
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CottonWasKing


DUDE. You are DEEP into your music. I respect that. KUDOS!!!!!!!!

BUT call me old fashion, BUT I just got done cranking Lynyrd Skynyrd "FREEBIRD" on the headphones and am still at AWE on how they came to be able to do THAT at THAT time in the Fox theatre in Atlanta in 1976. THAT song is unreal as far as writing and the ability to put EVERYTHING togather at THAT MOMENT in time. ITS Priceless.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:20 pm to
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DUDE. You are DEEP into your music. I respect that. KUDOS!!!!!!!!


So you liked the link I take it?

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BUT call me old fashion, BUT I just got done cranking Lynyrd Skynyrd "FREEBIRD" on the headphones and am still at AWE on how they came to be able to do THAT at THAT time in the Fox theatre in Atlanta in 1976. THAT song is unreal as far as writing and the ability to put EVERYTHING togather at THAT MOMENT in time. ITS Priceless


Its a fricking shame but as great as Freebird is I absolutely cannot stomach listening to it anymore.

Actually there are very few Skynyrd songs I can still jam (Needle and the spoon is one of them I will never be able to shake my addiction to that song). Its just that classic radio stations have just completely and totally ruined Skynyrd for me add in the complete joke of a band they call "Lynyrd Skynyrd" currently and it just makes me fricking sick.
Posted by CocoLoco
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:21 pm to
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HOWEVER, in his defense great rock n roll minds have few options. They are either douches, assholes, dicks or just unbelievably goddamned weird.


I completely agree. He definitely has his times of being a douche and showing arrogance I won't deny that.

I think the media makes it much worse on the guy too. He dates these celebrity women, which he needs to avoid because it draws even more attention. When he stays out of the way from the media he makes his best stuff (Continuum, Born and Raised, Where the Light Is). I wish he'd just avoid the media at all costs, shut the frick up, and play music.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:27 pm to
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I wish he'd just avoid the media at all costs, shut the frick up, and play music.



What every musician who actually gives a frick about their art should do.

Just play
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:31 pm to
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Its a fricking shame but as great as Freebird is I absolutely cannot stomach listening to it anymore.

Actually there are very few Skynyrd songs I can still jam (Needle and the spoon is one of them I will never be able to shake my addiction to that song). Its just that classic radio stations have just completely and totally ruined Skynyrd for me add in the complete joke of a band they call "Lynyrd Skynyrd" currently and it just makes me fricking sick.


I can understand what you are saying here. Its a SHAME that RADIO has ruined ROCK & ROLL. I have EVERYTHING I want on my computer. I listen to what I want. YES I am OLD school. I listen to that. I hope I can until I am 80. The music frombout 95 on does NOTHING for me. Thepeople thatthink the music today is even CLOSE to what it was back in the early days are crazy and have ZERO respect for how THEY paved the way.

Sorry Bud I am venting.
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