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The Sky Isn't Falling After Last Game's Defensive Performance
Posted on 9/12/12 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 9/12/12 at 8:46 pm
98% of fans don't realize most games are won & lost on Monday's & Tuesday's. Those are the days the coaching staff reviews the previous week's game film & begin looking at film to game plan for the following opponent.
The problem Spags ran into the opener against Mike Shanahan's offense is that no where in the past had Shanahan shown the read option look in any of his offenses. Spags had no film whatsoever to go off & the lack of preparation for it showed especially in the first half. Spags made some adjustments in the second half but that was already after the Skins put up 20 in the first half.
The biggest problem the read option look gave the defense is that it didn't allow the defensive ends to get up field & rush the quarterback. It put them in no man's land & the extra time allowed a young but accurate RG3 to find receivers.
This was one of the reason Cam Newton came out so hot to begin last season. Newton is a young, accurate, mobile quarterback & Carolina used many of the same read option type plays to give themselves an advantage. Once opposing teams had some film of Newton & Panthers offense, Newton began to cool off towards the end of last season.
So basically I'm saying Mike Shanahan came up with an outstanding offensive game plan & Spags & the defense was at a disadvantage because they were not prepared due to not having any game film to properly game plan. I expect a better game plan & better execution defensively Sunday against Carolina.
The problem Spags ran into the opener against Mike Shanahan's offense is that no where in the past had Shanahan shown the read option look in any of his offenses. Spags had no film whatsoever to go off & the lack of preparation for it showed especially in the first half. Spags made some adjustments in the second half but that was already after the Skins put up 20 in the first half.
The biggest problem the read option look gave the defense is that it didn't allow the defensive ends to get up field & rush the quarterback. It put them in no man's land & the extra time allowed a young but accurate RG3 to find receivers.
This was one of the reason Cam Newton came out so hot to begin last season. Newton is a young, accurate, mobile quarterback & Carolina used many of the same read option type plays to give themselves an advantage. Once opposing teams had some film of Newton & Panthers offense, Newton began to cool off towards the end of last season.
So basically I'm saying Mike Shanahan came up with an outstanding offensive game plan & Spags & the defense was at a disadvantage because they were not prepared due to not having any game film to properly game plan. I expect a better game plan & better execution defensively Sunday against Carolina.
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 8:50 pm to BigBrod81
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The problem Spags ran into the opener against Mike Shanahan's offense is that no where in the past had Shanahan shown the read option look in any of his offenses. Spags had no film whatsoever to go off & the lack of preparation for it showed especially in the first half. Spags made some adjustments in the second half but that was already after the Skins put up 20 in the first half.
Spags himself said they had practiced and were prepared for all the plays they saw. Shanahan's playcalling>>Spags playcalling. They kept us off balance all day.
I do think our defense will be fine though, and i expect them to play well against more traditional offenses. But you can bet that the panthers and eagles will be looking at what the redskins did on sunday.
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 9/12/12 at 9:01 pm to ViaCavour
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Spags himself said they had practiced and were prepared for all the plays they saw.
I believe they prepared for the bootlegs & rollouts which are staples of a Shanahan offense. The read option aspect of the Redskins offense that everyone saw Sunday was something new. Coaches will never admit to not being prepared for something so I'll take Spags comments as usual coach speak.
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 9/12/12 at 9:08 pm to BigBrod81
Maybe I'm an optimist.
But you convinced me.
But you convinced me.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 9:17 pm to BigBrod81
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I believe they prepared for the bootlegs & rollouts which are staples of a Shanahan offense
It sure didn't look like it. Even though RG3 didn't do it often (surprisingly), he could have run for probably another 5-8 first downs just off those bootlegs. We hardly ever had someone honoring it and when they did it was someone one on one where RG3 had tons of space to run.
So I really dont think they did. Unless they were really just that horribly inept at executing their gameplan.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 9:26 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Preparation doesn't always result in execution. It was obvious that there were aspects of the defense that suffered from poor execution along with the lack of preparation.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 9:34 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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. Unless they were really just that horribly inept at executing their gameplan.
A scary thought. But it always takes defense a few games to settle in. Especially with the offseason changes, no CB's, injured linebackers, etc...
The D is banged up, if our starters can stay healthy, they'll do great. If we are plagued by injuries the whole season, it may get bad. But i have a feeling they'll turn it around soon.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 9:38 pm to BigBrod81
The problem with what you just mentioned is that even if our OLB's and DE's play conservative not rushing up field to maintain the edge we are playing against Cam who offers some similar problems bouncing a run outside, and their RB's have gashed us with cutback and off tackle runs towards the sideline each game we face them. Even when we play conservative and spy the backfield we just lack the discipline leaving lanes or over pursuing runners while getting washed out on blocks.
We have serious deficiencies in this area, hopefully Hawthorne can get back to full health and improve his play, because he was abysmal. Bunkley and Lofton in the center are stellar, and Jordan on the other side is great, but Smith and Hawthorne's side is very worrisome.
When our players get back to health, we start gaining chemistry and fully understanding the scheme we will be solid. That and it will help not playing dual threat QB's, or very speedy and athletic RB's.
We have serious deficiencies in this area, hopefully Hawthorne can get back to full health and improve his play, because he was abysmal. Bunkley and Lofton in the center are stellar, and Jordan on the other side is great, but Smith and Hawthorne's side is very worrisome.
When our players get back to health, we start gaining chemistry and fully understanding the scheme we will be solid. That and it will help not playing dual threat QB's, or very speedy and athletic RB's.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:09 am to ATLienTiger
great point about chemistry. One, understanding how big of a deal a scheme change is . Some adapt faster, some slower, some look better, some don't. Then you bring in completely new starters in 4 of the front 7. Many even want to see more changes here. Just 4 is over a third of the unit that has never played a game together. At the NFL level of complexity that chemistry doesn't happen instantly.
Throw in the cornerback situation that happened last week- Greer out, PRob #1, Patrick #2, & White #3 was a pretty big personnel challenge to start with. Patrick out then you have a 5th Rd player from Samford starting at #2, and Jerome Murphy who was picked up less than a week earlier becomes #3 and plays almost 40% of the snaps. That's certainly a prescription for disaster in itself.
Throw in the cornerback situation that happened last week- Greer out, PRob #1, Patrick #2, & White #3 was a pretty big personnel challenge to start with. Patrick out then you have a 5th Rd player from Samford starting at #2, and Jerome Murphy who was picked up less than a week earlier becomes #3 and plays almost 40% of the snaps. That's certainly a prescription for disaster in itself.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:29 am to blueslover
As long as the players come out with some heart and play hard I'll b happy. It seemed like a football field was the last place they wanted to be this past Sunday.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:43 am to ViaCavour
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Shanahan's playcalling>>Spags' defensive personnel
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:08 am to SJS Eagle 85
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Shanahan's playcalling>>Spags' defensive personnel
Also a distinct possibility. The next few games will truly tell the story.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:31 am to BigBrod81
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BigBrod81
I like your style. You give your opinion, but back it up with logic and intelligent thoughts. I hope you are right. I can agree with most of what you say, but I'll add this: If the offense is on, and matching Wash point for point, then that puts pressure on RG3 and I think that helps the Saints. The Garcon TD was a result of a great play by Griffin and a horrible angle by a trailing Harper.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:39 am to BigBrod81
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most games are won & lost on Monday's & Tuesday's.
Did we win this weekend or not?
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the defense was at a disadvantage because they were not prepared due to not having any game film to properly game plan.
Even though they said that they planned for what they saw in the preseason and they didn't do anything they didn't expect, I think this had something to do with what happened.
HOWEVER... If that was the case, we should have been able to slow it down in the second half with some half time adjustments. This just makes me think our players are bad.
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I expect a better game plan & better execution defensively Sunday against Carolina.
I'm hopeful, but I'm not betting the house on it.
:GeauxSaints:
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:40 am to SaintEB
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I like your style. You give your opinion, but back it up with logic and intelligent thoughts.
That'll never fly on ST!
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:45 am to Suntiger
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That'll never fly on gameday
FIFY
Posted on 9/13/12 at 10:01 am to Hoodoo Man
Everything said is true. One thing that worries me right now; however is the Saints do not have the talent in the backfield to shut anyone down period. Carolina will run the same shite we saw Sunday, hopefully Brees and company come ready to play and we out score them.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 10:10 am to BigBrod81
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Once opposing teams had some film of Newton & Panthers offense, Newton began to cool off towards the end of last season.
One of the reasons I predicted Cam could suffer from the "Sophomore Slump" syndrome.
In his first 8 games last season, his QB rating was approx 103. In his last 8, it was roughly 87.
His first game this year: 83.3
Posted on 9/13/12 at 10:20 am to LSUFreek
good thread, don't think anyone is trying to paint over the potential problems. Discussion much better than just throwing out numbers of how many games they're gonna lose now though.
This is very big. One of the hallmarks of Payton coaching is this ability. Can they do it as well without him? Maybe not, certainly didn't in game one.
Stewart prolly back for Panthers who only ran 13 times for 10yds in Week 1 (Newton 5 for 4yds). Both teams will wanna see run game back on track
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If that was the case, we should have been able to slow it down in the second half with some half time adjustments.
This is very big. One of the hallmarks of Payton coaching is this ability. Can they do it as well without him? Maybe not, certainly didn't in game one.
Stewart prolly back for Panthers who only ran 13 times for 10yds in Week 1 (Newton 5 for 4yds). Both teams will wanna see run game back on track
Posted on 9/13/12 at 10:37 am to blueslover
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If that was the case, we should have been able to slow it down in the second half with some half time adjustments.
This is very big. One of the hallmarks of Payton coaching is this ability. Can they do it as well without him? Maybe not, certainly didn't in game one.
I really think what seperates good coaches from great coaches is the ability to adjust during the game.
If it was a scheme or assignment problem, I would hope Spags whould have been able to fix it during half time. Since we didn't slow them down during the second half, I'm assuming it was more a player issue than a scheme issue.
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